I am desiring to live in Vietnam, can someone help me?

YenThaiYawannisri wrote:

My name is Nancy Alice, but I have decided that I would rather have a Vietnamese name, so I only answer to Yen Thai Yawannisri. I am 46 years old, and I have a passionate desire to leave America and renounce my American citizenship. I feel that America has failed me and its people, and I desire to start a new more wonderful life. , and researching Vietnamese culture, traditions, laws and politics. I admit that I need extra help in learning these things and hope to find good Vietnamese people here in this blog to assist me. Thank you.

" I have already STARTED to study Vietnamese language "
  Not off to a good START, love your name, did you know there is no " W " in the VN alphabet???? Your name looks more Thai or Indo.
Renounce your US Citizenship?, don't tell me, you are a Muslim as well?
Don't count on getting VN citizenship, or even Permanent Residency, it won't happen.

Hello ! Nice to meet you ! I like to improve my English so if you come to
vietnam i'll trying do my best to help you .Saigon Vietnam always welcome
you

bluenz wrote:

" I have already STARTED to study Vietnamese language "
  Not off to a good START, love your name, did you know there is no " W " in the VN alphabet???? Your name looks more Thai or Indo.
Renounce your US Citizenship?, don't tell me, you are a Muslim as well?
Don't count on getting VN citizenship, or even Permanent Residency, it won't happen.

OP:
My eyes are hurting - what a colour!

Don't renounce your US citizenship, yet. Wait until you have settled in a new life. Ever thought of Canada? Like the US but with rounded corners.

BluenNZ: The VN government is enlarging the VNese alphabet to include all of the Roman characters in the English alphabet. There have been many, many, meetings on this point.

Muslim? The OP sounds like a Thai name.

Muslim? The OP sounds like a Thai name.

That's what I wrote, Thai/Indo,  (moderated: no racist comment here please)
" The VN government is enlarging the VNese alphabet "
I suppose they will start using " F " as well, , that will help, another idea is delete the " H " from all VN words that follow the " T ", at the start of the word.

Yeah well, you'll have to trade the Trans Am in for a motorbike or bicycle and I doubt you'll be really enthusiastic about the nation's marijuana laws (https://www.facebook.com/nancya.powell.54).

I'm surprised that someone with your views would fancy Vietnam to be a suitable home (unless you believe as many do that Vietnam is a socialist country in name only and you're cool with that)...

Your little editorial on MLK Jr. (https://www.facebook.com/wreg3/posts/190118634446391) is total bs BTW. Very low-level agitprop (not sure if you've moderated your views since 2012 but I'll comment as though you haven't).

Your snide characterization of U.S. blacks as collectively gullible for not recognizing that it is the Republican Party which represents their true interests is pretty telling...yes it is true that it was the Democratic Party which was the party of slavery but that was over 150 years ago and you seem to have missed some slightly more recent changes and political realignments though you did sort of give honorable mention to the Republican's southern strategy in the 60s and 70s (making appeals to racist whites through coded language as articulated well enough by Lee Atwater here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ).

MLK Jr. wasn't a "conservative" in any meaningful sense of the word and the claim that he was a "Republican" is based purely on speculation and nothing else (his father was a Republican when Democrats in the south were segregationists but he publicly endorsed JFK for president. In King Jr's autobiography in 1956 he said "in the past, I always voted the Democratic ticket." and in 2008 his son MLK III said: "It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican. It is even more outrageous to suggest he would support the Republican Party of today...").

Publicly King identified as neither a Democrat nor Republican (though he was often staunchly critical of the latter party in the 1960s, he didn't officially endorse Johnson though his actions were widely interpreted as such, still he was very critical of Johnson's Vietnam policy).

People talk a lot about MLK Jr.'s civil rights leadership but what tends to get uh, lost in the shuffle in a capitalist society was his unwavering support for economic fairness. When he gave his famous "I Have a Dream" speech as the final keynote speaker in the "March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom" (typically shortened to "March on Washington") he was flanked by Norman Thomas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Thomas), a Presbyterian minister and longtime Socialist Party of America (became Social Democrats, USA four years later in 1972 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats,_USA)  leader, and presidential candidate throughout the 30s and 40s ("a little Negro boy listened at the Washington Monument to an eloquent orator. Turning to his father, he asked, ‘Who is that man?' Came the inevitable answer; ‘That's Norman Thomas. He was for us before any other white folks were''' -MLK Jr. "The Bravest Man I Ever Met") and A. Phillip Randolph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Philip_Randolph) the sleeping car porters union organizer and Socialist Party leader who issued the call for the march and was the emcee at the event. The chief organizer of the march, Socialist Party member, SCLCer and King's lieutenant (who would later become the Chairman of SDUSA) was the openly gay civil rights leader Bayard Rustin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayard_Rustin). Other notable organizers and his key assistants who ran the March organizing office in NY were Tom Kahn, Rachelle Horowitz and Norman Hill all Socialist Party members. One might wonder why somebody who was so big on conservatism would surround himself with so many "reds".

The short answer is: because it isn't true.

But don't take my word for it. Here is what MLK had to say in a speech to his staff:

"You can't talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can't talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You're really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry.... Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong... with capitalism.... There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism".

-101 Changemakers: Rebels and Radicals Who Changed U.S. History
edited by Michele Bollinger

(further reading: http://keywiki.org/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.)

Also see here:

"I look forward confidently to the day when all who work for a living will be one with no thought to their separateness as Negroes, Jews, Italians or any other distinctions. This will be the day when we bring into full realization the American dream -- a dream yet unfulfilled. A dream of equality of opportunity, of privilege and property widely distributed; a dream of a land where men will not take necessities from the many to give luxuries to the few..."

Wow, what conservative Republican values...

Martin Luther King Jr. championed the idea of a guaranteed wage for all regardless of employment status. If that's part of the Republican (or Democratic for that matter) Party platform I guess I must have missed it.

Here are some more factually relevant quotes from MLK Jr. the "conservative Republican".

On Reagan: "When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events"

Source: I may Not Get There With you: The True Martin Luther King, Jr. Page 60

On the 1964 Republican National Convention and Barry Goldwater: "The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right...I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy."

-Chapter 23 of MLK Jr.'s autobiography.

I just can't stand people - left or right, conservative, liberal or what have you, who are willing to lie and distort someone's legacy in order to make an extremely partisan point. Take the time to learn about the man before being duped by, and further disseminating bogus propaganda.

Oh and welcome to expat-blog by the way.

well, look like u had a hard time. If u visit Ho Chi Minh City, contact me through [email protected]. I am 23 and will help u.

ps: cheer up !

" Every thing that Nam wrote "
Looks like Facebook strikes again

BOSSIER JANUR wrote:

saw my feeling in yours when i am living here in viet nam. i just want to move to other country with a wonderfull dream. After long time staying in malaysia, singapore...i got to know. Viet Nam is the best   
place for balance of my life. i decided to be here in any condition.

In Europe. a few years ago, everyone wanted to go to America to see all the beautiful women, the gold-paved streets, etc.

They got sticker shock.

Svelte, sexy American women

And no gold on the sidewalks

Temporary housing for street people in Los Angeles

Now you know why VietNam is so great, and so many Foreigners live here

Hi,

I have seen many American complain about their life  in America. There must be sth wrong happening. Pls try to ask yourself what you can do to change it. If not, you will have more new problems here. Vietnam is not really like heaven.

Regards

' Vietnam is not really like heaven. '
Apparently the new " heaven " is Australia, thousands of illegal immigrants risk their lives, ( and somebodies $5k --$10k ) getting on shitty old boats from Indonesia. But anywhere with such a good welfare system will always be targeted.

bluenz wrote:

' Vietnam is not really like heaven. '
Apparently the new " heaven " is Australia, thousands of illegal immigrants risk their lives, ( and somebodies $5k --$10k ) getting on shitty old boats from Indonesia. But anywhere with such a good welfare system will always be targeted.

1. There is a aus tv program about those illegal immigrants. They are even from "heaven country-America".. some of them tried to immitate Aus accent in the airport. Some of them try to be cruel to scare airport security. ..
2. Good welfare system? Seems most pp dont feel satisfied with what they have.

Regards

hi there

i can help you. please contact me via address: [email protected]

regards
Pham Viet Hung

Dejavu.dot wrote:

There must be sth wrong happening. Pls try to ask yourself what you can do to change it.

What does this mean, Dejavu.dot?

Dejavu.dot wrote:

bluenz wrote:

' Vietnam is not really like heaven. '
Apparently the new " heaven " is Australia, thousands of illegal immigrants risk their lives, ( and somebodies $5k --$10k ) getting on shitty old boats from Indonesia. But anywhere with such a good welfare system will always be targeted.

1. There is a aus tv program about those illegal immigrants. They are even from "heaven country-America".. some of them tried to immitate Aus accent in the airport. Some of them try to be cruel to scare airport security. ..
2. Good welfare system? Seems most pp dont feel satisfied with what they have.

Regards

" some of them tried to immitate Aus accent in the airport "
One time a boatload of them landed in Nth , ( that means North ), Aus, they battled their way through croc invested territory and mangroves, in 35C heat, and high humidity, wearing SUITS and ties, thinking they would be landing close to a city,  they wanted to blend in.
Many of them are economic refugee's, ( $5k -- $10k per person per seat, many have their families with them ), they pass through many " peaceful " Muslim countries where they could have settled with their own kind, but thanks to the power of the internet, they know exactly what they could be entitled to in Aus, plus there are plenty of bleeding hearts who want to help them.

Jaitch wrote:

Dejavu.dot wrote:

There must be sth wrong happening. Pls try to ask yourself what you can do to change it.

What does this mean, Dejavu.dot?

Sth: something
Pp: people
Sb: some body

Hi, Yen Thai Yawanni sri !      I am assuming by your post that you have not been to Vietnam before, so before making any decision to move here permanently I would strongly suggest that you come and spend at least 3 months travelling around before making any rash move. By all means study the culture history and language and take advice from wherever, but be aware that the dream doesn,t always match the reality.

bluenz wrote:

One time a boatload of them landed in Nth , ( that means North ), Aus, they battled their way through croc invested territory and mangroves,

Do they really invest in crocs to scare those boat-people away?? 

senwl wrote:

bluenz wrote:

One time a boatload of them landed in Nth , ( that means North ), Aus, they battled their way through croc invested territory and mangroves,

Do they really invest in crocs to scare those boat-people away?? 

New keyboard, they put the V too close to the F, but to answer your question,  if they are wearing crocodile shoes, or carrying a crocodile wallet, they will be in even bigger trouble.
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bluenz wrote:

senwl wrote:

bluenz wrote:

One time a boatload of them landed in Nth , ( that means North ), Aus, they battled their way through croc invested territory and mangroves,

Do they really invest in crocs to scare those boat-people away?? 

New keyboard, they put the V too close to the F, but to answer your question,  if they are wearing crocodile shoes, or carrying a crocodile wallet, they will be in even bigger trouble.
[img align=c][img align=d]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R-h5t8xMxvs/US0KEhAtMtI/AAAAAAAAJJ4/HQc-X7Aaffw/s1600/funny-alligator-purse-ex-husband-cartoon.jpg[/url][/url]

It could be worse.
An investment of 'Crocs' rubber clogs!

bluenz wrote:

senwl wrote:

bluenz wrote:

One time a boatload of them landed in Nth , ( that means North ), Aus, they battled their way through croc invested territory and mangroves,

Do they really invest in crocs to scare those boat-people away?? 

New keyboard, they put the V too close to the F, but to answer your question,  if they are wearing crocodile shoes, or carrying a crocodile wallet, they will be in even bigger trouble.
[img align=c][img align=d]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R-h5t8xMxvs/US0KEhAtMtI/AAAAAAAAJJ4/HQc-X7Aaffw/s1600/funny-alligator-purse-ex-husband-cartoon.jpg[/url][/url]

How about carrying a few kilos of croc meat, fresh from the wild??
Sure the guards would 'love' to 'confiscate' that!
...... After all, it (part of it) promises a lovely dinner in the evening beside a bonfire, doesn't it?. 

senwl wrote:

bluenz wrote:

senwl wrote:

Do they really invest in crocs to scare those boat-people away?? 

New keyboard, they put the V too close to the F, but to answer your question,  if they are wearing crocodile shoes, or carrying a crocodile wallet, they will be in even bigger trouble.
[img align=c][img align=d]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R-h5t8xMxvs/US0KEhAtMtI/AAAAAAAAJJ4/HQc-X7Aaffw/s1600/funny-alligator-purse-ex-husband-cartoon.jpg[/url][/url]

How about carrying a few kilos of croc meat, fresh from the wild??
Sure the guards would 'love' to 'confiscate' that!
...... After all, it (part of it) promises a lovely dinner in the evening beside a bonfire, doesn't it?. 

Here's a crocodile dinner.

oops wrong thread

bluenz wrote:

renouncing her US citizenship, only a Muslim would do that? ( out of ignorance, or spite maybe?)
It's like the Jihardists that want to go to Syria, etc, to fight, the US should do what Aus did, let them go, ( but has since stopped ), don't let them ever return, and make them renounce their US, etc , citizenship , BEFORE they leave.
  It would save countries $millions in surveillance and jail space, etc..

A Jihadi Muslim on the way to IS with US passport would probably want to keep citizenship, easier to go back home to "do work".

But I agree, let them all go to never return and find their 72 virgins (or whatever) in some sandy hellhole.

Jaitch wrote:

Muslim? The OP sounds like a Thai name.

A Muslim Thai name?

bluenz wrote:

Here's a crocodile dinner.
[img align=c]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n1DdrXR55jE/Teq5XR7-IPI/AAAAAAAAD-U/xx4lsnSO6XM/s1600/Crocodile+Festival+in+Pakistan+02.JPG[/url]

Omg, I was thinking about this picture and I can't sleep  , though I had a tired day today, hic hu hic!

bluenz wrote:

One time a boatload of them landed in Nth , ( that means North ), Aus, they battled their way through croc invested territory and mangroves,

senwl wrote:

Do they really invest in crocs to scare those boat-people away??

bluenz wrote:

New keyboard, they put the V too close to the F, but to answer your question,  if they are wearing crocodile shoes, or carrying a crocodile wallet, they will be in even bigger trouble.
[img align=c][img align=d]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R-h5t8xMxvs/US0KEhAtMtI/AAAAAAAAJJ4/HQc-X7Aaffw/s1600/funny-alligator-purse-ex-husband-cartoon.jpg[/url][/url]

How about carrying a few kilos of croc meat, fresh from the wild??
Sure the guards would 'love' to 'confiscate' that!
...... After all, it (part of it) promises a lovely dinner in the evening beside a bonfire, doesn't it?. 

Here's a crocodile dinner.
[img align=c]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n1DdrXR55jE/Teq5XR7-IPI/AAAAAAAAD-U/xx4lsnSO6XM/s1600/Crocodile+Festival+in+Pakistan+02.JPG[/url]

Here's another stupid from Darwin, AUS.

Outrage after Facebook pictures show man letting baby swim in crocodile-infested East Alligator River


.... fishing for some croc-meat delicacies at dinner (below), may be.

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(Moderated: inappropriate)

I heard a citizen can have two nationalities and thus having more benefits. just think about if you will renounce ur current nationality  !!

thaitrang1910 wrote:

I heard a citizen can have two nationalities and thus having more benefits. just think about if you will renounce ur current nationality  !!

Jaitch holds that the record on here, 4 Passports????
  Maybe you should look up the word " renounce ", if you " renounced " your nationality, you wouldn't have DUAL citizenship.

No I am not Muslim. Yawannisri is my late husband's last name...he was a native of Thailand. We were married for 10 years until he passed away from cancer.

Thank you for your kindness.

YenThaiYawannisri wrote:

No I am not Muslim. Yawannisri is my late husband's last name...he was a native of Thailand. We were married for 10 years until he passed away from cancer.

Thank you for your kindness.

My belated condolences, but you made it sound like YOU choose that name, ( which you probably did?, if Thailand's anything like VN, the wife keeps her original name ).

YenThaiYawannisri wrote:

No I am not Muslim. Yawannisri is my late husband's last name...he was a native of Thailand. We were married for 10 years until he passed away from cancer.

Thank you for your kindness.

Sorry for your loss!

Maybe you can explain a bit more how you feel America has failed you. Why do you wish to renounce US citizenship, why would you want a Vietnamese name...

Anyway, if you've never been to VN, maybe just pay a visit first before thinking too much.
Wish you good luck and that you find happiness in life again!

if you want to live in Ha Noi and ask any thing about it. I can help you.

my gmail: [email protected]

Good luck and enjoy your life

ngattt wrote:

bluenz wrote:

Here's a crocodile dinner.
[img align=c]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n1DdrXR55jE/Teq5XR7-IPI/AAAAAAAAD-U/xx4lsnSO6XM/s1600/Crocodile+Festival+in+Pakistan+02.JPG[/url]

Omg, I was thinking about this picture and I can't sleep  , though I had a tired day today, hic hu hic!

if you was thinking about it and cant sleep, u'd better have dinner with crocodile .

True...if he and I had been married IN Thailand...but we were married HERE in America...and in America the wife takes her husband's last name.

Six months after we were married we moved to Chiang Mai, and last month, he passed away.

As for my religion...I am a Catholic, however I have been looking into Buddhism. And yes, I have just recently started to learn Vietnamese. There are some Vietnamese who live here in Memphis, TN...they own their own food markets here and I do 95% of my grocery shopping there. Lately, they have been teaching me little by little to speak their language. And (unlike some people) they have been the MOST kind and respectful to me, the most helpful, and understanding.

Have a good day, and thank you.

It isn't that I just feel like America has failed me personally. I feel as if America is failing all of its citizens. It is all a political mess here in America. I am just sick of it all. I want something new, different, and exciting...something exotic. I was reading the Vietnamese Constitution day before yesterday and I realized that it makes more sense to me than America's new found "power"...I used to have respect for this country, but not anymore and maybe because America no longer respects itself or it's citizens.

That is just my personal opinion...it is the way I see things. Everyone sees things in a different perspective than others, and my perspective of America right now is...well, you don't want to know. Other people here may agree with me and others may not. Does not matter, all I know is I have had enough.

where and when do u want to live in Viet Nam ? Ha Noi or HCM city ? 

Could i know ur name ? Yen or Thai ? maybe it is vietnamese name, isnt it ?