IMPORTANT NEW CHANGES FOR THOSE APPLYING FOR PERMANENT VISAS

Even with a contact it's going to be difficult...
You would probably need to leave Brazil with your job offer and apply from your home country
Even then there is absolutely no guarantee of it been approved  and I'd hate to burst your bubble but in your case I don't think it would be as it would need to be in a specialist field that they can't find a Brazilian worker for and also the Brazilian government make it more difficult for people from India and Pakistan as they are considered high risk of trying to settle in Brazil.

You do understand no country just welcomes potential immigrant with open arms simply because they just want to be there....there are systems and laws in place to make exactly that very difficult.
Do you think I can just go to Pakistan and apply to the Government to stay there because I like it and want to work and live there? No way ! In fact they would probably want to incacerate and deport me even for mentioning it!
It does not work like that and there are systems in place to make your life difficult every step of the way.
Your only hope if you want to settle here legal is Brazilian wife/partner or child ,or a proper application for a working visa which is know to be VERY difficult to get if you are not backed by a large corporation.

alimasood1018 wrote:

Thanks but if company give me a job letter then possible to change into work visa or no?

You can look for work on a VITUR Tourist Visa, and you can even apply for a VITEM-V Work Visa through the Ministério de Trabalho e Empregos - MTE should a Brazilian company confirm in writing that you have been given a contract. The problem is that you MUST RETURN TO YOUR HOMELAND in order to personally attend the Consulado-Geral do Brasil in that country to get the visa placed in your passport.

Sorry, but you just can't stay in Brazil.

Cheers,
James   Expat-blog Experts Team

I have a question...
My case might be a little odd so that's why I am not finding the info I need: I am Canadian, I am married to a Brazilian woman (almost 5 years ago), we were married in Canada. Back in 2012 we lived in Brazil and had started my application for permanent visa. Before the whole process was completed I got a too-good to pass offer for a job contract back in Canada so we moved back here and I kind of let the permanent visa thing fall through the cracks... Now that my contract is finishing, we want to go back to Rio (we still own an apartment there) but I do not know how to go about my permanent visa... Should I start from scratch? Go to the FP and try to revive my previous application?

Hello raba6999,

I presume that before you began your previous permanency process that your Brazilian spouse registered the Canadian marriage at the Consulado-Geral do Brasil having jurisdiction over the city where the marriage took place, and then once in Brazil registered the marriage at the 1º Oficio de Cartório de Registro Civil in Rio. If those two steps weren't completed, then that should be your very first step.

Your next step would be for you to apply for a VITUR Tourist Visa for Brazil if you don't already have a valid one still. Once you arrive in Brazil you will need to begin the permanency process all over again with the Federal Police since they won't reactivate your original application. That means that all the documents you needed for the first application are going to be gotten again, since they all must be new.

This time you'll be applying for permanency under the new procedures, which are much more streamlined and quicker than the old process. You won't need a Certified Criminal Record Check from the RCMP, since that has been replaced by a Declaração Sob Pena da Lei de Não Condenação. There is no longer a home visit (sindicância) either, as was done in the past. You will sign a Declaração de Não Se Encontra Separados de Fato ou Direito instead.

See the very first posting on this topic thread for further information.

Cheers,
James    Expat-blog Experts Team

Yes, we had done the whole thing. We were waiting for the police to come and visit. I was under the impression that we could make a new application while we were still in Montreal... The consulate is not far from where we live... But maybe that procedure has changed also!

You can apply through the Consulado-Geral do Brasil in Montreal, but you'll still need to submit ALL the necessary documents all over again. The drawback with applying through the Consulado is that it will probably take about 3 months for the VIPER to be issued, and you can't enter Brazil even with a different category of visa until you actually have the VIPER Permanent Visa in hand.

Coming to Brazil on a VITUR and applying here is the ultimately best option, since provided that all the documents are in order permanency is granted immediately.

Cheers,
James    Expat-blog Experts Team

I have an appointment with Polícia Federal tmrw at 330pm to begin application for permanência based on marriage. Wish me luck!! Thanks to all for your help esp James! 😀😀

The luck of the Irish to you Sharky..... keep us posted!

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James     Expat-blog Experts Team

It's easy to get the permanency from outside of Brazil
Mine only took about 1 month to arrive and you don't need to get your documents translated.
All of these permanent visa processes have really been streamlined in the last year and it's no where near as bad as it used to be , in my experience it's pretty easy these days.

What was the process for outside the country?

Just take all the  documents to a consulate and fill out the relevant application form

1st register the marriage with the consulate if you have not done so already , or if you do not have a brazilian marriage certificate

Then I needed

Application form
Full birth certificate
Passport
Criminal record check

I think my wife needed her ID card and birth certiicate too
Pay the fee of about R250 dollars for the visa
you submit everything they copy it there at the consul and then you wait for the visa sticker to arrive
with a printout of the visa application stamped by the consulate- you will need this

Once you in brazil you check in with federal police within 30 days of entry to do the whole CIE RNE process
also finalize your marriage registration in Brazil if you have not yet done so and get your Brazilian certificate

Hi all,

I will appreciate your help with this question. I am applying soon for the Viret (temporary residence permit). If approved, my intention is to do the landing, and probably after one month I will leave for some time.

I would like to know how much time I can be outside of Brazil to keep the residence status. Additionally, if absences will have an impact when I apply for the permanent version of the Mercosur visa.

Thank you in advane, and sorry if this is not the place to post this question.

Nelson,

Are you talking about a VITUR Tourist Visa, since there is no such thing as a VIRET???

A VITUR visa allows holders of Canadian passports to stay in Brazil for 90 day, which can be extended by an additional 90 days for a total of 180 days per "rolling" year. How you use those days is completely up to you as long as you don't go over 180 in the year.

Cheers,
James    Expat-blog Experts Team

If you are a columbian citizen then why would you need a visa to visit Brazil?

Sorry I did not give you all the information.

Although I have Canadian citizenship, I am using my Colombian passport to apply for the Mercosur Visa.

I am following the information provided by the Brazilian consulate in Toronto.

TEMPORARY RESIDENCE VISA - VIRET

Nationals of MERCOSUL, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia and Peru, as well as their legal dependents, regardless of their nationality, may be granted a temporary residence visa to live in Brazil.

Under Decree 6.964/09, the temporary residence permit - VIRET, will be valid for up to 02 years, after which period residents in the country may apply for permanent residence.

Applicants must fill out the visa request online at https://scedv.serpro.gov.br and submit their application documents in person at the Consulate.

I have no previous experience at all with the VIRET Visas for temporary residency for Mercosul citizens. Since the visa is only for a 2 year duration I would guess that it wouldn't permit absences from Brazil longer than 90 days at a time during the first 2 years. You should check with the Consulado-Geral do Brasil or the Federal Police for the definitive answer to this one.

Cheers,
James    Expat-blog Experts Team

My appointment for permancia today went really well. I was expecting some last minute hiccup where they would ask me to get some other form and come back another day.
But, didn't happen. Juliana and I had everything and more with us. They were very nice. I have to go back in Jan to pick up my CIE but they stamped my passport, gave me a protocolo to prove that I am permanent and three copies of Sincre printout. Wonderful day!! 😀😀😀

i need a little clarification here, a friend of mine was dating a Brazilian girl for over a year, Now he wants to apply for resident permit through SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP,  what steps can he take to apply a residence or what does he needs to do?

I think he would have to marry her. I don't think they will grant permanency based on a serious relationship. You would have to have some sort of document proving marriage or equivalent.  if that were the case of only having a serious relationship anyone could get permanency just by claiming a serious relationship. I don't think it works that way here in Brazil. It must be legitimate with the point being there is no family with which to base it on otherwise.

gonzaga wrote:

i need a little clarification here, a friend of mine was dating a Brazilian girl for over a year, Now he wants to apply for resident permit through SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP,  what steps can he take to apply a residence or what does he needs to do?

Unfortunately dating does not qualify for "Permanência Definitiva com base em União Estável". The definition of a Stable Union (for the purpose of immigration) is where two individuals live together, publicly and openly as a couple, for a PROVABLE period of at least one year.

The relationship must be supported with documents such as a property deed or rental contract naming both, a joint bank account, joint tax returns, a life insurance policy naming one as insured and the other as beneficiary. All probative documents must be at least one year old. Also witnesses who will sign a declaration under penalty of law to the existence of the relationship will probably be required too.

Cheers,
James     Expat-blog Experts Team

okay. thanks for the clarification. much appreciated

Hi, James. I've tried to review all the pages on this subject, so I apologize if I missed something.

I'm trying to find the most updated requirements for getting a permanent visa based on retirement, but even the "official" notices I've found are inconsistent. I'm particularly interested in knowing what the current proof-of-income level is for Americans. Most sites say $2,000 USD/month, the amount I've read before, but that amount may have been adjusted recently for inflation. The Brazilian Consulate in San Francisco now says it's $3,500 USD/month. The one in Miami says "the equivalent" of $R 6,000/month. The one in D.C. says something slightly different - the equivalent of $R 6,000/month "or roughly $3,000 USD."

Is there any single citation/source I can rely on as the official declaration (regardless of, or factoring for, currency fluctuations) of what stable income level a person applying for a retirement visa must prove?

Thanks in advance.

Actually $2000 USD puts you at R$7540 per month based on current exchange rate provided by XOOM this amount will vary dependent on the current exchange rate. I think the correct figure is $2000 USD however at this time

As far as I'm aware nothing in the current legislation has changed, the amount required is USD $2000 per month for the retiree and up to 2 dependents, plus USD $1000 per month for each additional dependent.  The exchange rate at this exact moment makes it R$7558.21 for the retiree plus 2, and on that you'd live quite well. Middle managment jobs pay salaries around R$7000 per month, and they seem to do extremely well on that.

Cheers,
James
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Thanks to both of you.

Hi  James - First off thanks for the wealth of information you provide.  I recently got married here in Brazil - and everything went relatively flawlessly - due in large part to your all of your informative posts.

My question is that I am now filling out all the paper work for my permanent residency - and I noticed that you mentioned that there are two application forms to be filed out at the Policia Federal website:

"Now, you must prepare the VIPER application (Pedido de Permanência Definitiva) and the application for the Cédula de Identidade Estrangeiro - CIE all at the same time. You do that at the DPF website www.dpf.gov.br"

I am only seeing one application form, that seems to be for everything. Am I missing something? (Could be -as I've been staring at portuguese for waaay too long today).

Thanks!

Hello ggfnyc,

There is only one form that you fill out on the DPF website, that does everything - pedido de permanência, Registro Nacional de Estrangeiro, and the Cédula de Identidade Estrangeiro.

I think where you're getting confused is the Guia de Recolhimento da União (GRU), there are THREE of them that you'll need to generate and print off:

140066 PEDIDO DE PERMANENCIA     R$168,13
140082 Registro de Estrangeiros/Restabelecimento de Registro R$106.45
140120 Carteira de Estrangeiro de Primeira Via R$204.77

When you get to the DPF, they will give you a form which is the written Pedido de Permanência Definitiva and have you fill it out there because they want the whole thing in writing and signed, not just the online stuff. Do make sure that the information you put on that form matches EXACTLY what you provided online.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

James - Wow - thanks for the super quick response!!  I'll go through and try to print off the GRU's now. 

Thanks a bunch.

g

One of my foreigner friends married a Brazilian woman and now he is not able to go with her. According to him, his parmanent visa would be cancelled if he divorce his wife before the termination of one year with her. I want to ask you if it is necessay to pass one year with wife after getting permanent visa otherwise the visa would be cancelled?

The legislation states clearly that the marriage must have a duration of five (5) years before one's permanency in Brazil is secure. That said, I have not personally heard of a case where once granted permanency, a foreign spouse has had their visa revoked as the result of divorce.

Certainly, if the ex-wife is vindictive and reports the divorce to the Federal Police and complains enough, they may revoke permanency if for no other reason than to make her go away. The other circumstance is if they determine that the marriage was entered into purely for convenience in order to obtain a visa. Then they would certainly revoke the permanency.

Lei No. 6.518/80
Art. 75. Não se procederá à expulsão:
      II - quando o estrangeiro tiver:

        a) Cônjuge brasileiro do qual não esteja divorciado ou separado, de fato ou de direito, e desde que o casamento tenha sido celebrado há mais de 5 (cinco) anos;

So, until five (5) years have passed, there is absolutely no guarantee that permanency could not be revoked. I would suggest that if your friend is at all in doubt of his situation that he simply avoid getting a divorce until five years after his marriage.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

but he said: it would be automatically cancelled independent of the request of his wife to  FP. Is it true?

Sounds like you got problems ou pal

sakraan wrote:

but he said: it would be automatically cancelled independent of the request of his wife to  FP. Is it true?

How would it be cancelled if his wife did not inform the Federal Police? They would have absolutely no way of knowing of a divorce otherwise. They have better things to do with their time than to be contacting Cartórios all over the country to see which expats have divorced.

Also, your friend cannot even apply for a Cartório divorce until he's been separated for one (1) year, or he'd need to apply for a separation and then wait for a year to apply for divorce. A judicial divorce through the courts also first involves applying for "Separação de corpo e partilha de bens" and then a separate application for divorce... this can take many years.

As I said, his best option is to do nothing for the next five years and hope his wife doesn't contact the Federal Police.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

thanks Sir for real information!

James wrote:

Hello ggfnyc,

There is only one form that you fill out on the DPF website, that does everything - pedido de permanência, Registro Nacional de Estrangeiro, and the Cédula de Identidade Estrangeiro.

I think where you're getting confused is the Guia de Recolhimento da União (GRU), there are THREE of them that you'll need to generate and print off:

140066 PEDIDO DE PERMANENCIA     R$168,13
140082 Registro de Estrangeiros/Restabelecimento de Registro R$106.45
140120 Carteira de Estrangeiro de Primeira Via R$204.77

When you get to the DPF, they will give you a form which is the written Pedido de Permanência Definitiva and have you fill it out there because they want the whole thing in writing and signed, not just the online stuff. Do make sure that the information you put on that form matches EXACTLY what you provided online.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

It serves so for refugees?? Free registration!
http://www.brasilpost.com.br/2015/12/02 … mg00000004

Refugees are required to make their application for refugee status immediately upon arrival in Brazil, with the Federal Police at the airport and with CONARE. It is a completely different process even though it might use the online form (which I strongly doubt).

One cannot make the application at any other time than upon arrival, for example one could not visit Brazil as a tourist, and then try to apply for refugee status before their departure.

Also, if one's passport showed that they had passed through any "safe" country before arrival in Brazil they would not be permitted to apply as refugees, since one must apply for refugee status in the first "safe" country they arrive in.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

Hi
Dear Sir James!
   I hope you are enjoying good health. I am please to inform you I got VIPER, here in Pakistan. I want to ask ? What is INDETERMINADO in the visa duration? I had always been getting your help during my whole procedure,.
                                    Thanks a lot

Best wishes,
El hasan

VIPER Permanent Visa based on marriage to a Brazilian?

Indeterminado means that it remains valid for an indefinite period.

However, you should know that you must enter Brazil within 1 year of the visa being issued. Once here you must go to the Federal Police and register in the RNE (Registro Nacional de Estrangeiro) and apply for your civil ID (Cédula de Identidade Estrangeiro) within 30 days of your arrival.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

Thanks Sir for your prompt response,

Yes based on marriage, But I think , I should enter with in 90 days because on my visa, they have specified , FIRST entry with in 90 days.

                    However, thank you very very much, You always help the needy , who really wander here and there to get some information, because you know, for English speakers, information in Portuguese on internet are not adequate.

   Would you like to tell me ? for Registration in Police, what I will require as document, also with what and how will I apply for Work permission?

                            thank you very much once again,

Regards,
El Hasan