Is there any chance I can move to Canada

Hey Guys, my name is Shayla, a chinese girl, living and working in China now.
Half of a year ago, I was thinking of moving to another country to experience a new life. The thought cannot disappear until now. I don't  know why but Canada is my first choice, just love the country so much. To let you know me well, I'd like to introduce myself a bit more.
I hold a bachelor in business administration and graduated 2008 from Huaihai University in China.I am working in a motor manufacturing company as assistant for the general manager and foreign trade manager for two years.
Besides, I am not rich (I cannot afford the cost of studying abroad)and I don't have any relatives in Canada.
Before I post this, I already did some research about immigrate to Canada and the result showed that it's more difficult for me.
So I am here, and hoping you guys can give me some tips. How could you move to Canada?
Expecting your reply and Thank you in advance
Wish you all the best,Shayla

Hi Shayla,

Why do you say that it would be too difficult for you to ove in Canada? You can tell here what you need to know and I will try to help you ;) ... Good luck

Thank you for your kindness help. Let me explain.
The reason. Just as I told before, I did some research before I posted here. I contacted with a consultant, told her everything about myself. She told me directly that it's hopeless if I want to immigrate via skilled worker, because my major (business management) is not Canada needed and my working experience is not enough(only two years until now). But she still evaluated me (which is necessary if I want to apply for immigration to Canada) and the marks is not good. However, if I take IELTS and get 7,plus I must know French then there might be little little hope for me. The problem is I know nothing about French and don't like it. :(
Now I have no idea what I can do to go there. That's why I am here asking for opinions.  Is it possible for me to apply for a job in Canada and get a work visa then go there? (Speaking of this, I've already send many many emails to Canadian companies, most of them got non-reply, some told me that I should be a resident in Canada,which is so frustrated )
Any advice?
Thank you
Regards
Shayla

:) shayla, I think I have a good new for you. There are many programs avalable for the immigration in Canada and I think your consultant didn't check all of them. I just checked the program of Provincial Nominees, the Prince Edward Island Provincial Nominee Program to be exact and I made a simulation about your case (at least, the few I know about it): I got 59 points and only 50 are required :cool: . I send a private message to you now because if you want we can continue and built your file

Thank you
I will contact you later

Hi Shayla,

Ni hao !

I would like to help you because I understand this feeling that you have (I did have lived the same 7 years ago).
Let me tell you some points according to what you wrote:

Consultant: Do you really think you need a consultant?
Many people could by themselves prepare their file. It's true that the consultant could help, but if you have a good diploma, a good experience, and you speak English (you can use French only if you have to immigrate to Québec province), and have just few money for the first 3 month to subsist in Canada,… that is suffisent, and you don't need a consultant.
However if you could offer it it's okay !

On second hand you said :
‘' because my major (business management) is not Canada needed and my working experience is not enough(only two years until now).”

Take a look at what immigration Canada said here:

In order for your application to be eligible for processing, you must either:
•    have an offer of arranged employment, OR
•    be a foreign national who has been living legally in Canada for one year as a temporary foreign worker or an international student, OR
•    be a skilled worker who has had at least one year of experience* in one or more of the following occupations within the last ten years:
•    *Experience is defined as continuous full-time or equivalent part-time paid work experience

0111: Financial Managers
0213: Computer and Information Systems Managers
0311: Managers in Health Care
0631: Restaurant and Food Service Managers
0632: Accommodation Service Managers
0711: Construction Managers
1111: Financial Auditors and Accountants
2113: Geologists, Geochemists and Geophysicists
2143: Mining Engineers
2144: Geological Engineers
2145: Petroleum Engineers
3111: Specialist Physicians
3112: General Practitioners and Family Physicians
3141: Audiologists and Speech Language Pathologists
3142: Physiotherapists
3143: Occupational Therapists
3151: Head Nurses and Supervisors
3152: Registered Nurses
3215: Medical Radiation Technologists
3233: Licensed Practical Nurses
4121: University Professors
4131: College and Other Vocational Instructors
6241: Chefs
6242: Cooks
7213: Contractors and Supervisors, Pipefitting Trades
7215: Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
7217: Contractors and Supervisors, Heavy Construction Equipment Crews
7241: Electricians (Except Industrial and Power System)
7242: Industrial Electricians
7251: Plumbers
7252: Steamfitters, Pipefitters and Sprinkler System Installers
7265: Welders and Related Machine Operators
7312: Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
7371: Crane Operators
7372: Drillers and Blasters – Surface Mining, Quarrying and Construction
8221: Supervisors, Mining and Quarrying
8222: Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service
9212: Supervisors, Petroleum, Gas and Chemical Processing and Utilities


Let me repeat again ‘' be a skilled worker who has had at least one year of experience''
At least one year , and you have two year.

And take a look again at the position nº:
0111… 0631…0632...1111

It's true you have business management diploma, and you said also that you are working‘' as assistant for the general manager'' so you have either to switch in a company where you can use your skills in the field needed in Canada.

Probably you have some knowledge in Finance, accounting, or you can also try to work in a company specialized in restauration, or accomodation service … anyway there is a hope somewhere , and I wish I can help you more, so think again about all the other issue.


Ahh there is also the program of Provincial nominees:

Persons who immigrate to Canada under the Provincial Nominee Program have the skills, education and work experience needed to make an immediate economic contribution to the province or territory that nominates them. They are ready to establish themselves successfully as permanent residents in Canada.
To apply under the Provincial Nominee Program, applicants must be nominated by a Canadian province or territory.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/ … ly-who.asp

wish you good luck.
Zai jian!

Thank you Abdel, you really helped me a lot.
I checked the same website last night too, even the situation is not so good, but you are right, there is still a hope.I guess I know what I should do next.
I've already quit my current job,and thinking to find a new job.
Wish me luck.
Thank you again
Have a nice day
Shayla

Hi Shayla,

As Abdel said, don't discourage yourself! :cool: ... you have some good skills which Canada needs, but indeed the consultant you saw in China made an evaluation of your case as skilled worker only. I checked it from my side and indeed I saw that, despite your good skills, the amount of your points isn't enough for the skilled workers program. But there are some others programs available and I will tell you soon, there are many things to explain about that and I need time to write all that ;)

Have a nice day!

Benoît

Nice post... the info that you 2 gave Shayla encourage me. I'm kind of in the same case that she is respect to the job finding (wrote to many companies but no response from them). I am Daniel, l hold a Bachelor in Environmental Studies and hace 2 yrs. of experience.
Now I live in Venezuela and I am making the paperwork to send it to the Canadian Embassy in Caracas. But a thing that I still do not know is how an immigrant can do once he or she just landed! How to get a house or an apartment? There are offices which can help to immigrants to do these things?
Thanking

Hi Daniel and welcome,

Preparation should be done before immigrating to Canada, I mean by contacting landlords of apartment via internet announcement.
I know it's a little hard, but for some people it works .

You can also check at the beginning for hotels cheap but good, and try to stay on it less than 10 days (because after 10 days or 2 weeks it costs almost as one month rent).
Then during those 10 days or 2 weeks, try to look for a roommate (if you are alone) there are many announcement at universities. But if you are with family it's better to look for an apartment rather than a room or a roommate .

Last but not least there are so many organization and association helping immigrant. Look which city you will move to and contact them before to travel in order to be more prepared and maybe also to have an apartment waiting for you there.

My best wishes. Good luck

Hi,

I'm Lynn and am currently waiting for approval for Canadian PR for myself and my family.  I wished that I have read the posts earlier as I have paid a Consultant five thousand dollars to process the PR application.   Am waiting for approval reply now.

Please help me on which province is good.  I have considered Ottawa as the houses are reasonable.  But there are comments about it being like a sleepy forest. Is Montreal a good place for immigrants?  My daughter is studying to be a diploma registered nurse in Singapore.  What are the chances of continuing her degree over there?  Which University is well known and offers accelerated degree?  Are there hospitals that can sponsor this? 

Most people immigrate to Vancouver, right?  I wonder why.  Is it because of language.  How are Canadians overall?  You all sound very nice.


Thanks
Lynn

Hi Lynn,

I think Montreal is a good place for immigrants since many of them decide to live here. But many of the english-speaking people prefer to move to Toronto or Vancouver, especially chinese and others asian people, because it is easier for them to speak and find a good job.
About your daughter, I think it would be better for her if she enroles in a nurse school here and get her diploma here. Canadians diplomas makes far easier to find a good job and if she has one, I am very sure that she won't wait to get a job.
You ask, why Vancouver? I think, in the past, Chinese people immigrate by boat and Vancouver is the first harbour that is reached in Canada at the other side of the Pacific Ocean. So I think it is the main reason why, bit by bit, Chinese people increased their population and now they are at least 1/3 of the population in Vancouver. So, you told you are in Singapore, so you probably speak english and mandarin. You shouldn't have so much difficulties in Vancouver, but prepare you well before coming.

benoit-canada wrote:

Hi Lynn,

I think Montreal is a good place for immigrants since many of them decide to live here. But many of the english-speaking people prefer to move to Toronto or Vancouver, especially chinese and others asian people, because it is easier for them to speak and find a good job.
About your daughter, I think it would be better for her if she enroles in a nurse school here and get her diploma here. Canadians diplomas makes far easier to find a good job and if she has one, I am very sure that she won't wait to get a job.
You ask, why Vancouver? I think, in the past, Chinese people immigrate by boat and Vancouver is the first harbour that is reached in Canada at the other side of the Pacific Ocean. So I think it is the main reason why, bit by bit, Chinese people increased their population and now they are at least 1/3 of the population in Vancouver. So, you told you are in Singapore, so you probably speak english and mandarin. You shouldn't have so much difficulties in Vancouver, but prepare you well before coming.


Hi I manage to find your reply here :)

By boat??  Wow, that sounds like a bit of a History lesson yeah.  In Singapore, my ancestors come here by boat too. 

Vancouver - it is voted as the most liveable city in world right?  Ok - good for people who immigrated there way back.  But Vancouver house prices are also the most expensive.  But nothing beats Singapore.  Here, we are so short changed for space.

I believe one has to speak French in Montreal which in Quebec?   Saw some attractive houses on the internet in Quebec with decent prices (I prefer to pay in full, if possible).

As for my daughter, she has to start her diploma this year as I'm still pending for PR status.  It is a 3 years course and by then, we should be prepared to invest in Canada in terms of a house or maybe a biz.  Let's see. 

Lynn

Hi Ladylynn,

I would like to switch on some light into the question about the best place to live in Canada.

Everyone probably pondered what makes a city a good place to live in. Is it the job (employment rate)? Salaries? climate? Real estate (home prices)? Cost of living? safety (crime rate) ? the availability of doctors (people forget such this criteria)?

It's surely a bit of each of those factors, plus many more than a dozen other factors, and it depends mostly on the people themselves.

A person who is in front of few years of retirement will not pay attention to the employment rate, but most probably about the number of doctors per habitant, and a young single professional will prefer to relocate in a place where his job field is highly on demand  and he will not pay attention to the daycare places (as he has no babies) etc….

So it depends on the person, or precisely on the ''needs'' of the person, plus …… the affordability of the city.

Vancouver is known as one of the best cities, especially for its nice weather but climate only, goes not so far, of course. To enter the climatological paradise of vancouver, you have to pay more than $500,000 for an average home.

In my opinion it's preferable to start by looking for ''where is the job (according to the field of work of the person) is in demand'', plus the affordability of the house, then safety and so on.. etc…..

It will be good to put some important critera that a person prefer according to his own style of life and then, to look for the best offer.

In few weeks I will bring the most recent survey for the 2010 edition of '' the best canada's place to live''.

Surely it will help.

Good luck !

Hi Lynn

You're right about the houses prices in Montreal, they still are affordable. I give you here a link where you will find many houses. The best prices are in the south shore of Montreal, a correct house with land, garden, 3 bedrooms etc...  costs 200000$-300000$. New homes may be a bit more expensive however.
remax-quebec.com/en/showHome.rmx
So I hope you will find something that suits you :) and I will help you to make your mind about it if you need my advices.

Hi Lynn
I live in Vancouver for many years whit the huge Asian community it would make sense for you to focus here..we see many Asian coming in Vancouver ,at least you don't have to l speak French and you can try to get in any English school you will get your student visa very quickly ten you will see if the life is better here to china ...i see many chines peoples going back to they country so this is absolute not the best country in the world....
Farid
Ps.if you still wand to come here,you should forget Quebec it is very hard for the news immigrant

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies.  These would greatly help me in my decision process.

TO: fbenkaiouche

You are Chinese from China?? I'm from Singapore.  You might be right there about Asian community but I believe that we should try to assimilate into the host country culture instead of sticking to own race.  But in reality, it might not be so easy, unless there is some sort of inter marriages and there is extended family etc.  Hmmm...... Just thinking out loud...if my kids married another race, I'm sure the grandkids would be damn attractive.   Oh..that's just my opinion.

But Vancouver houses prices is the most expensive.  I intend to sell my Singapore house and pay in full for a house there, with some left over for my daughter and son Universities in Canada and retirement/business.  Therefore house prices is a major consideration. 

Question : Are university fees cheaper for PRs compared to
Foreigner?  This is one of reason why I go for PR.  Else how to get a cheaper foreign education.  Is criterias to get in easier for locals and PR also?
I can't ask the Universities these as on a profit basis, they would prefer to accept foreign students.

To : Abdel

Your post really makes sense and I'm also looking into this seriously.  It is important to be near the amenities that you mentioned. 

To : Benoit

Thanks for the link to Montreal real estate.  I fell in love with the houses and the prices.  It is a dream.  We CAN NEVER NEVER NEVER GET THIS TYPE IN SINGAPORE.  Oh..we are so short changed for space here.  Here we are like living in pigeon holes but paying a bomb for them.  But will we get ignored if we do not speak French?

You mentioned you will be here for some projects.  When?

To God,

I hope my PR can be approved.  Meanwhile I'm keeping a positive frame of mind and studying the provinces.  I hope to make a family trip to Canada soon. 

Have a good day.  Why is everybody offline when I'm online.

Hi Ladylin,

There is 12 hours difference between East-Canada and Singapore, that should explain why we sleep when you work :D

If you plan to live in Montreal, then you will be able to make many chinese friends because there is a large china town here, all these people generally supports each others and help each others. It is the reason why chinese people generally succeed when they immigrate in a foreign country.

About the houses in Montreal, indeed I think you shouldn't wait too late to buy one because, in fact, I think the houses in Vancouver are overpriced. In Montreal they still are correct here but bit by bit, they don't stop increase. I immigrated here in 2004 and now I plan to buy my own house, in 3 months.

Don't listen people who have a very negative experience of Quebec. I think they were not well prepared enough, they thought Quebed is a paradise where one has only to  stoop to pick up banknotes on the sidewalk :lol:

Like everywhere in the world, people must do some efforts to succeed. But I feel you realist, indeed you have a dream but I think you see Canada as it is really and you will be well prepared before coming. Tell me why wouldn't you have a short trip before your immigration? I think it should be a good idea don't you think :)

Hi Benoit,

I immediately came ONLINE when I just received your post but then you were OFFLINE.  Maybe there is some delay in receiving?  :D

Oh yes, if I wish to pay upfront, I think Montreal prices would be affordable.  Unless you are talking about a tiny apartment in Vancouver, then it would not make much difference in where I'm in Singapore now. 

Benoit, yes I'm a realist.  I worked hard all my life in Singapore.  Now I just want a less stressful and better life for me and my grown up kids.  I want more space, more financial freedom and still do some work or social contributions back to society.  I wish there is a "paradise" on Earth.  Well....we can look forward to heaven.   

Frankly, I was a bit concern about fbenkaiouche mentioning about Quebec not friendly for new immigrant and that many of her/his countrymen went back to China.  I hope fbenkaiouche can provide more details.  But your mention of a Chinatown in Montreal reassures me as well.  Actually we are not so Chinese also.  My daughter failed her Chinese in school and excel in English. 

So when are you coming to Singapore?   Are you able to help me with house hunting when the time comes.  How many hundreds of thousands must I bring to Canada when I landed as an immigrant?  Like you said - must be prepared.

To : Abdel

Ottawa sounds a decent place as well.  But I think the jobs are majority Government related.  Is Hospital considered goverment as my daughter is into nursing?


Warmest love from Singapore
Lynn

PS. And I love Adam Lambert.  Part of Singapore Glamberts here.

ladylynn wrote:

To : Abdel

Ottawa sounds a decent place as well.  But I think the jobs are majority Government related.  Is Hospital considered goverment as my daughter is into nursing?


Warmest love from Singapore
Lynn


Hi LadyLynn,

I did not pay attention to your request in this mail.
I just saw it.

Well Ottawa indeed is a wonderful place to live in.
and effectively most of job are related to government but there are places for private companies: Banks, Insurance, IT, etc....

There is a chance to everybody, people just have to have the right qualifications for the compatible position. It's maybe a little bit difficult for a newcomers but not impossible, as nowadays there are so many organization to help immigrants to find a place.

Good luck.

Abdel wrote:
ladylynn wrote:

To : Abdel

Ottawa sounds a decent place as well.  But I think the jobs are majority Government related.  Is Hospital considered goverment as my daughter is into nursing?


Warmest love from Singapore
Lynn


Hi LadyLynn,

I did not pay attention to your request in this mail.
I just saw it.

Well Ottawa indeed is a wonderful place to live in.
and effectively most of job are related to government but there are places for private companies: Banks, Insurance, IT, etc....

There is a chance to everybody, people just have to have the right qualifications for the compatible position. It's maybe a little bit difficult for a newcomers but not impossible, as nowadays there are so many organization to help immigrants to find a place.

Good luck.


this topic was just freakin' helpful !! people here are too nice to help other !! well .. lemme explain my situation....(almost like Shayla situation)

I'm 23 years old livin' in Brazil and graduated in both Business Administration (Bachelor) and Telecommunication (as a technician) .. wanting to live in Canada, I didn't get my visa yet and am still looking for information about how to get it, I'd like to immigrate as a skilled worker, I've been working in brazil for the last 8 years as an auxiliary administrative and I think its possible to apply for a skilled worker visa, could u guys tell me some information to help me to get my visa !? as i'll be an immigrant I think it's gonna be hard to find a job in some company in my area, I want something regarding Telecommunication and Administration, although what I see from most people moving out to Canada from Brazil is that they start working as a waiter or cashier.

p.s. and I'm learning English as well before I got in Canada to increase my chances finding a job !!

thank u all !

regards,

Philip

Hello Canada!

I checked on the official immigration site, and it seems IT related skills are not worth the special treatment anymore :-/
How often is the preference list updated? Are there any trends I should be aware of?

Some backstory:
I'm from Hungary, but lived in the USA and Germany before. I have an MSc in Electrical Engineering, specializing in computer networks, but moved into software development (even started a PhD in Computing Science once, never finished). Pretty good mix nowadays, with most systems involving the Internet :-) Oh, and I'm a great fan of VoIP. It's frustrating at times, but so liberating! I'm a see a need, fill a need kind of guy, so I often end up in all kinds of roles like project management, team leadership, sales, technology evangelism, or just plain administrative management.
My wife is the community person: adult and child education, team formation and group dynamics. We have 2 kids (4 and 8), she's been mostly at home with them lately, but ready to plunge back to work.

Meanwhile, one of the parties in Hungary gained unrestricted power and control in the government, the parliament, and in the municipalities. They are bringing it to my attention in no uncertain terms how unwelcome we are.

Thus: Hello Canada!
:-)

Any help in making it happen is greatly appreciated!

It looks like the sensible course of action is securing a job offer remotely. Telecommunication companies are the obvious choice. So which of them are the least hated by the locals? :-)

Oh, and Hungary is still a lovely place to visit, we plan to do just that, just don't try to involve it in any long term plans!

hello canada
  Am rogers from uganda aged 18yrs of age,l wil be 19 on 23rd of september,well am astudent who has just finished high school,l wanna do diploma in archiecture in canada because canada is my favourite country that l love most in my life ever since l was young,l did my high school and now wanna join university but my mum says that l wont be able to join because she doesnt have enoigh money to pay my tuition at school,l really love archiecture,designing buildings and l feel disgusted about leaving my career,it has even created agap between me and my mum,we no longer talk,it hurts me alot,well l had decided to go to my favourite country and thats canada,look for ajob,work,save then l pay for myself,it is really right?anyone please help me out and advice me about this because its really tearing me..

please help

thanks

am rogers

Dear shayla,
Please contact me and i will help you moving to canada
sincerely,
Ahmed

Hi all,

I'm a Malaysian in her 20s with a Science degree and currently working in Singapore.

I want to move to Canada for my boyfriend.. We have been talking about relocation for a while now but I realize how difficult it is for me to move there... I have also read the page which Abdel posted on 2010-04-16 09:05:02.  Sad to say, my occupation is not on that list... I also tried a few job agencies in Vancouver but they either not reply me, or tell me that I need a PR status to apply for a job there...

I want to try applying through the Quebec/Montreal system as a French speaker and I have even taken up French...

Any advice please?

Thanks in advance!

Hello

any update here its been 3 years past. is there anyone here moved already to canada?

Hello everyone,

@joemed, a new thread has been created from one of your post. You may get some feedback here : https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=501359

This thread is quite old, i will be closing it.

Cheers,
Bhavna

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