The possibility for Marry a Belgian without Marriage or Fiance Visa

Hello Enny,

Thanks for your kindness of helping people in the same situation.

When you arrived to Belgium on Schengen visa was it a tourist visa for 3 months ( C visa) or longer?

Thanks in advance,

If you are living abroad and would like to get married in Belgium with a fiancé visa 5that is to say SchengenC visa for marriage, here is some useful information:



Are you required to hold a visa?

The visa ‘with a view to concluding a marriage in Belgium' is a C type visa (Schengen visa).

Nationals of most third countries outside the European Economic Area (EEA) are under an obligation to hold a visa for a proposed stay of a maximum duration of 3 months on the territory of the SCHENGEN States.

To find out more, consult the list of third countries whose nationals are placed under the obligation to hold a visa to cross the external borders of the SCHENGEN States and/or the list of third countries whose nationals are exempt from that obligation (Annex 1 to visa manual I).

Also consult the list of residence permits issued by the SCHENGEN States allowing entry without a visa (Annex 2 to visa manual I).



Where to lodge your visa application

> As a general rule, you lodge your visa application with the Belgian consulate with territorial competence for the country in which you legally reside. You present yourself in person, at the earliest 3 months before the planned start of your journey.

> If your papers are in order in a country where you do not habitually reside, you may, exceptionally, contact the Belgian consulate competent for that jurisdiction, but you will need to be able to explain why you are lodging your application there. In that case, your application will be passed on to the Aliens Office, which will take the final decision.

To find out more about the territorial competence of the Belgian consulates, click here


RECOMMENDATION
Go to the consulate's website for any information on the practical arrangements on the lodging of your visa application. The point is that it is possible that you might need to make an appointment. It is also possible that the consulate might cooperate with an external service provider entrusted with sundry tasks (information, making an appointment, receiving files, etc.). In that case, additional service fees will be charged.

Bear in mind also that the consulate might invite you for an interview or ask for additional documents.

Finally, look at when you will be travelling, because the period for the issue of an appointment and the time taken to process your visa application will inevitably be longer at certain times of the year.

In short, make sure you lodge your visa application in good time (but at the earliest 3 months before the planned start of your journey) to avoid any disappointment and unnecessary costs.



The supporting documents to submit when applying for a visa

A. If you are a national of a third country outside the European Economic Area (EEA) and you are travelling to marry a Belgian or an alien holding a CIRE or CIE, or an A, B, C, D, F or F+ residence card

It is essential that your file contain the following:

a) a completed and signed visa application form, complying with the harmonised SCHENGEN visa application form. This form is available free of charge from consulates. You complete it in French, Dutch, German or, if you do not have a command of any of the national languages, ideally in English. You append a recent identity photograph meeting the standards in force.

Any person appearing in your travel document must complete a separate application form.

Minor children must submit an application form signed by a person with parental authority or by a legal guardian;

b) a travel document (e.g. a passport), valid for at least 3 months from the date on which you intend to leave the SCHENGEN territory, or, in the case of multiple journeys, the date on which you intend to leave it for the last time. This document must also contain at least 2 blank pages and have been issued less than 10 years ago;

c) the documents indicating the purpose of your trip, i.e. a copy of the deed of declaration of marriage made to the registrar in the 6 months prior to the visa application and a history of the relationship;

d) the documents indicating that you have sufficient personal means of subsistence, both for the duration of your stay on the SCHENGEN territory and for the transit to a third country in which your admission is guaranteed, or a commitment that charge will be taken (Annex 3 bis);

e) suitable, valid travel health insurance covering any costs of repatriation for medical reasons, emergency medical care and/or emergency hospital care or death during your stay/s on the SCHENGEN territory. This insurance must be valid for the whole of this territory and the whole of the stay. The minimum cover is 30,000 EUR. In principle, it is taken out in your own country. Ask the competent consulate about the insurance companies whose contracts are accepted;

f) a copy of the identity card/residence permit of the person being joined. If that person is authorised or admitted to stay for an unlimited duration, the residence permit must have been issued at least 12 months ago;

g) proof that both parties are aged over 21;

h) a medical certificate attesting that you are not carrying any of the diseases which might endanger public health;

i) if you are aged over 18, a certificate attesting to the lack of any convictions for crimes or offences under common law;

j) proof that the person being joined has sufficient accommodation;

k) proof that the person being joined has stable, regular and sufficient means of subsistence to meet his own needs and those of the members of his family and avoid them becoming a burden on the public authorities.

When you receive confirmation of the issue of the visa, supply proof of the transport that you will use to reach Belgium (non-transferable ticket in your name). This proof is not required when you lodge the visa application, to avoid unnecessary costs. On the other hand, proof of the reservation of a ticket may be demanded.

B. If you are a national of a third country outside the European Economic Area (EEA) and you are travelling to marry a citizen of the Union/EEA

It is essential that your file contain the following:

a) a completed and signed application form, complying with the harmonised SCHENGEN visa application form. This form is available free of charge from consulates. You complete it in French, Dutch, German or, if you do not have a command of any of the national languages, ideally in English. You append a recent identity photograph meeting the standards in force.

Any person appearing in your travel document must complete a separate application form.

Minor children must submit an application form signed by a person with parental authority or by a legal guardian;

b) a travel document (e.g. a passport), valid for at least 3 months from the date on which you intend to leave the SCHENGEN territory, or, in the case of multiple journeys, the date on which you intend to leave it for the last time. This document must also contain at least 2 blank pages and have been issued less than 10 years ago;

c) the documents indicating the purpose of your trip, i.e. a copy of the deed of declaration of marriage made to the registrar in the 6 months prior to the visa application and a history of the relationship;

d) the documents indicating that you have sufficient personal means of subsistence, both for the duration of your stay on the SCHENGEN territory and for the transit to a third country in which your admission is guaranteed, or a commitment that charge will be taken (Annex 3 bis);

e) suitable, valid travel health insurance covering any costs of repatriation for medical reasons, emergency medical care and/or emergency hospital care or death during your stay/s on the SCHENGEN territory. This insurance must be valid for the whole of this territory and the whole of the stay. The minimum cover is 30,000 EUR. In principle, it is taken out in your own country. Ask the competent consulate about the insurance companies whose contracts are accepted;

f) a copy of the identity card/residence permit of the party being joined;

g) if the party being joined is residing in Belgium as a citizen of the Union with sufficient resources of their own to be able to ensure that they do not become a burden on the Belgian social aid system during their stay and acceptable health insurance covering all risks (e.g. Belgian cross-border worker or annuitant), proof of such resources and the holding of health insurance.

dofi.ibz.be/sites/dvzoe/EN/Application-guides/Pages/Coming_to_Belgium_to_get_married.aspx

If you are a non EU citizen and would like to get married in Belgium, with your Belgian boyfriend/girlfriend  or a boyfriend/girlfriend who has a residence here in Belgium please read the following text.

Basically you will apply for a fiancé visa, that is to say " Schengen C visa for marriage for maximum stay of 90 days" in your home country before coming to Belgium.

But before that you have to give  your partner, boyfriend, girlfriend authorisation to start the marriage procedure at the municipal council in his or her neighbourhood. Your partner will hand in this authorisation to the municipality with your your signature and the partner residing in Belgium will start the marriage procedure.

Your Belgian boyfriend/ girlfriend or your boyfriend/girlfriend with residence here in Belgium provide also in advance to the municipality the documents/proof that he/she will cover all your costs plus provide you accommodation while you are staying here ( for that he/ she needs to provide payslips for 3 months, gas, electricity, internet bills which show that he/she is living on that address plus rental contract of the apartment. There is  a special application form to fill for that) When the municipality confirms that he/ she is capable of taking care of your costs they will issue a document.

The rest  of the information is here: B. If you are a national of a third country outside the European Economic Area (EEA) and you are travelling to marry a citizen of the Union/EEA

It is essential that your file contain the following:

a) a completed and signed application form, complying with the harmonised SCHENGEN visa application form. This form is available free of charge from consulates. You complete it in French, Dutch, German or, if you do not have a command of any of the national languages, ideally in English. You append a recent identity photograph meeting the standards in force.

Any person appearing in your travel document must complete a separate application form.

Minor children must submit an application form signed by a person with parental authority or by a legal guardian;

b) a travel document (e.g. a passport), valid for at least 3 months from the date on which you intend to leave the SCHENGEN territory, or, in the case of multiple journeys, the date on which you intend to leave it for the last time. This document must also contain at least 2 blank pages and have been issued less than 10 years ago;

c) the documents indicating the purpose of your trip, i.e. a copy of the deed of declaration of marriage made to the registrar in the 6 months prior to the visa application and a history of the relationship;

d) the documents indicating that you have sufficient personal means of subsistence, both for the duration of your stay on the SCHENGEN territory and for the transit to a third country in which your admission is guaranteed, or a commitment that charge will be taken (Annex 3 bis);

e) suitable, valid travel health insurance covering any costs of repatriation for medical reasons, emergency medical care and/or emergency hospital care or death during your stay/s on the SCHENGEN territory. This insurance must be valid for the whole of this territory and the whole of the stay. The minimum cover is 30,000 EUR. In principle, it is taken out in your own country. Ask the competent consulate about the insurance companies whose contracts are accepted;

f) a copy of the identity card/residence permit of the party being joined;

g) if the party being joined is residing in Belgium as a citizen of the Union with sufficient resources of their own to be able to ensure that they do not become a burden on the Belgian social aid system during their stay and acceptable health insurance covering all risks (e.g. Belgian cross-border worker or annuitant), proof of such resources and the holding of health insurance.

dofi.ibz.be/sites/dvzoe/EN/Application-guides/Pages/Coming_to_Belgium_to_get_married.aspx

Hello everyone, nice to meet you! 😊

I have been with my belgian boyfriend for a year, and we plan to apply for living together visa next year. Does anyone know how to process the visa? And what should I do here? Because i am living in Indonesia at the moment, but we have met 3 times (more than 40 days).
and how long is the procedure? Should we start it before our 2 years anniversary?

Thank you very much
have a great day, regards
Andra

Blue Sunny wrote:

If you are a non EU citizen and would like to get married in Belgium, with your Belgian boyfriend/girlfriend  or a boyfriend/girlfriend who has a residence here in Belgium please read the following text.

Basically you will apply for a fiancé visa, that is to say " Schengen C visa for marriage for maximum stay of 90 days" in your home country before coming to Belgium.

But before that you have to give  your partner, boyfriend, girlfriend authorisation to start the marriage procedure at the municipal council in his or her neighbourhood. Your partner will hand in this authorisation to the municipality with your your signature and the partner residing in Belgium will start the marriage procedure.

Your Belgian boyfriend/ girlfriend or your boyfriend/girlfriend with residence here in Belgium provide also in advance to the municipality the documents/proof that he/she will cover all your costs plus provide you accommodation while you are staying here ( for that he/ she needs to provide payslips for 3 months, gas, electricity, internet bills which show that he/she is living on that address plus rental contract of the apartment. There is  a special application form to fill for that) When the municipality confirms that he/ she is capable of taking care of your costs they will issue a document.

The rest  of the information is here: B. If you are a national of a third country outside the European Economic Area (EEA) and you are travelling to marry a citizen of the Union/EEA

It is essential that your file contain the following:

a) a completed and signed application form, complying with the harmonised SCHENGEN visa application form. This form is available free of charge from consulates. You complete it in French, Dutch, German or, if you do not have a command of any of the national languages, ideally in English. You append a recent identity photograph meeting the standards in force.

Any person appearing in your travel document must complete a separate application form.

Minor children must submit an application form signed by a person with parental authority or by a legal guardian;

b) a travel document (e.g. a passport), valid for at least 3 months from the date on which you intend to leave the SCHENGEN territory, or, in the case of multiple journeys, the date on which you intend to leave it for the last time. This document must also contain at least 2 blank pages and have been issued less than 10 years ago;

c) the documents indicating the purpose of your trip, i.e. a copy of the deed of declaration of marriage made to the registrar in the 6 months prior to the visa application and a history of the relationship;

d) the documents indicating that you have sufficient personal means of subsistence, both for the duration of your stay on the SCHENGEN territory and for the transit to a third country in which your admission is guaranteed, or a commitment that charge will be taken (Annex 3 bis);

e) suitable, valid travel health insurance covering any costs of repatriation for medical reasons, emergency medical care and/or emergency hospital care or death during your stay/s on the SCHENGEN territory. This insurance must be valid for the whole of this territory and the whole of the stay. The minimum cover is 30,000 EUR. In principle, it is taken out in your own country. Ask the competent consulate about the insurance companies whose contracts are accepted;

f) a copy of the identity card/residence permit of the party being joined;

g) if the party being joined is residing in Belgium as a citizen of the Union with sufficient resources of their own to be able to ensure that they do not become a burden on the Belgian social aid system during their stay and acceptable health insurance covering all risks (e.g. Belgian cross-border worker or annuitant), proof of such resources and the holding of health insurance.

dofi.ibz.be/sites/dvzoe/EN/Application-guides/Pages/Coming_to_Belgium_to_get_married.aspx

Hello Andrasaras,

I would recommend that you read the thread's content before asking your queries since most of them were tackled.

Thank you,
Gavind
Expat.com Team

Hello Andrasaras,

As suggested above, please read the existing information in the thread and if you still have questions, come up with the specific ones

Thank you very much gavind and anneshks 😊

Have a great day all

And nice to meet you

thank you guys for the helpful infos . I will be visiting this blog from time to time now

I had some questions in my head and got some answers to them. I would like to share them with you?

Q: What is the the difference between a Schengen C visa max 90 days for marriage and Schengen D visa for marriage?

A: Schengen C visa for max 90 days is if you are a foreigner and would like to get married in Belgium with your Belgian boyfriend/ girlfriend.

Schengen D visa is if you  are a foreigner and want to get married in a foreign country with your Belgian boyfriend/ girlfriend or with sby who has a residence in Belgium. After the marriage in the foreign country you want to settle down in Belgium. The second alternative is you are already married with a foreigner who is living abroad. He/ she would like to  come to Belgium and have residence permit that is to say stay longer than 3 months.

2.Q:  In the application form for Schengen C visa it is not mentioned for marriage.. A: You write it yourself for example reason for asking Schengen C visa: to get married with my boy/girlfriend

3. Q: where do I do the travel flight ticket reservation?

A: through a traveller' s agency! Once you get your visa you can buy your ticket, you can even change your reservation.

4. Q. How do I proof our relationship?

A: through postcards, letters, hotel reservations, flight tickets, sms, photos, other screenshots of communication. I have heard that it is a good thing not to mention in the first case that you have been receiving money from your partner.

5. Q; If there is no Belgian embassy handling visas for marriage issues in my home country what do I do?

A: You find out in which country the competent embassy is ( through google or by contacting the consulate) and you send all your application to the Belgian Embassy in the other country by DHL. First you have to proof for the Embassy that you have paid for the administrative costs. The Belgian embassy will give you the details for how much, and the company code and so on. Send them an email and ask your questions. Normally it is by Western Union Quick pay ( from individual to Company) But check first which Western Union has this service in your country because the most popular service is money transfers ( from individual to individual)

Here is the Western Union link for quick pay locations (point number 8 in the link); payment-solutions.com/faq.asp#2

6. Q.How does my future husband/ wife in Belgium know which documents he/ she needs?

A. He/ she goes to the town hall in his neighborhood in Belgium, takes a ticket for " marriage" service and give them a photocopy of his identity card and copy of the first page of your passport. Then the town hall will tel him which documents are necessary

7. Q My future husband/ wife in Belgium will cover all my costs  while I am staying there with Schengen C visa ( max 90 days). Where do I find the application form and what is it called?

A. It is called Annex bis3 if your future husband / wife is Belgian with a Belgian identity card. He/ she can ask for that at the town hall where he/ she is registered or print it from the internet; dofi.ibz.be/sites/dvzoe/EN/Application-guides/Pages/The_commitment_that_charge_will_be_taken_Annex_3bis.aspx

8. Q. My future husband/ wife lives in Belgium , has lived there more than 3 months but has a special identity card for ex because he/she is working for the EU institutions and so on. What kind of application form will he/ she fill in to cover my expense?

A. Normally for people with a special identity card living in Belgium there is no application form like Annex 3 bis. They just write   a sworn statement. They can use Annex 3 bis as an example; the type of costs indicated there.  Sworn statement or declaration sur l' honneur would look more or less like this;  pratique.fr/lettre-attestation-honneur-prise-en-charge.html

9. Q. What is legalisation?

More or less all the documents which don' t come from Belgian authorities but finally will be processed by Belgian authorities to be able take a decision about the foreigners possibilities to get a Schengen C visa max 90 days have to be legalized ( that they are kind of true). The foreign authority is different from country to country which does that if you are outside Belgium. Check with the Belgian Consulate. Normally foreign ministries and/ or Ministry of justice in your home country are competent to legalize your documents before you hand them to the Belgian Consulate or Embassy. Your documents after being legalised must also be legalized by the Belgian Embassy/ Consulate before they are sent by the Belgian Embassy or Consulate to  the Migration office for  a final decision.

I hope that this information will help you a bit on the way. Good Luck!

i will be applying for a fiancee visa not later than this year. .thank you for this blog. .

Hello everybody

I would like to complete my former message with "or with somebody who is not Belgian but has been residing in Belgium for more than 3 months"

Q. What is the the difference between a Schengen C visa max 90 days for marriage and Schengen D visa for marriage?

A: Schengen C visa for max 90 days is if you are a foreigner and would like to get married in Belgium with your Belgian boyfriend/ girlfriend or with somebody who is not Belgian but has been residing in Belgium for more than 3 months

i will be applying for a fiancee visa not later than this year. .thank you for this blog. .

Is it possible to cancel a health insurance signed for Schengen visa when the visa application is not approved?

I received this answer from AXA insurance company; I would like to share it with you:

Dear Sir/Madam,

The information about the costs of our different policies and other policy details can be found on our website (http://www.axa-schengen.com), under the tab 'warranties'.

It is also possible to calculate the exact price of your proposed trip by choosing to get a 'free quote'.




We accept to cancel and refund a contract in 2 cases:

- Contractual reason: - Rejection of Visa.(in this case we require the visa refusal document or email from the embassy)

- Legal reason: - Withdrawal within 14 days if the coverage is at least 30 days or death of the insured.

Hello! Blue Sunny, I have not encountered this kind of situation but I think it is possible to cancel a health insurance when the visa is denied since the insurance company sent you a message stating the cases where the health insurance can be cancelled or refunded. As what I have read in your post, it stated there below that the insurance company accepts cancel and refund if the visa is rejected and if the withdrawal of the insurance happens within 14 days. But I guess not all insurance companies issue cancellation and refund.

Hello again,

Actually, the question I wrote was the one that I sent to to the AXA insurance company (concerning the product Schengen health insurance) and as soon as I received an answer from that I wanted to make it public

MissKath wrote:

Hello! Blue Sunny, I have not encountered this kind of situation but I think it is possible to cancel a health insurance when the visa is denied since the insurance company sent you a message stating the cases where the health insurance can be cancelled or refunded. As what I have read in your post, it stated there below that the insurance company accepts cancel and refund if the visa is rejected and if the withdrawal of the insurance happens within 14 days. But I guess not all insurance companies issue cancellation and refund.

The question that I wrote was my original question to Schengen Insurance Company. I just shared their answer with you.

Could you please help me with my other questions on the thread that you started yesterday  concerning your experiences while asking for a fiance visa. Thanks in advance

Thanks for sharing the info, Blue Sunny! I already replied to your questions in my thread.

Hello everybody!

If you are surfing like me to get some infrmation about getting married in Belgium sometimes you will encounter this:

  "certificat de coutume" which is translated to "affidavit of law". I f you wonder what it means please read the rest of the text.

The answer is from a French wedding site but very informative:

"Certificat de Coutume", "an affidavit of law" and "customs" is required by some mairies. This is a notarised statement by an attorney who is licensed to practice in both France and your home country. The Certificate de Coutume certifies that you are both free to marry and your marriage will be recognised also in your country of residence.

Some mairies will also accept a notarised affidavit (attestation tenant lieu de certificat de coutume) which can be obtained by appointment from Consular Services of local Embassy or Consulate. There is a fee for this service.

http://www.rivierareporter.com/doing-it … h-citizens

Andrasaras wrote:

Hello everyone, nice to meet you! 😊

I have been with my belgian boyfriend for a year, and we plan to apply for living together visa next year. Does anyone know how to process the visa? And what should I do here? Because i am living in Indonesia at the moment, but we have met 3 times (more than 40 days).
and how long is the procedure? Should we start it before our 2 years anniversary?

Thank you very much
have a great day, regards
Andra

Hello Andrasaras,

Concerning information about cohabitation (living together visa) I recommend you the following site. There are huge amount of useful questions and answers. A few questions are about marriage as well.

Good luck!

http://belgiumcohabitationvisa.com/

If you don' t know if you have to legalize your documents (for example  birth certificate, residence certificate, celibacy certificate, nationality) or not in your home country for the Belgian authorities in able to get married in Belgium, please check the following site. Fill in the requested 3 questions. You will get the answer

http://diplomatie.belgium.be/en/service … documents/

If you see the word apostilled sometimes while you are searching for marriage in Brussels and you wonder what it is, here is the explanation; Some countries has signed the convention of Hague Apostilled in 1987 in order to skip legalization among each other; Documents coming from these countries which will be presented for another member country which has signed apostilled convention doesn' t need to be legalized. Apostilled from the local authority while receiving the document for example civil act is enough. It is a little sigil.

Also civil act documents from EU countries which will be presented to another EU country don' t need to be legalized. Documents apostilled from local authorities is enough.

However if the documents you are presenting are not in the official language of the country, they have to be translated by a sworn translator. These translators must be  recommended by the Ministry of Foreign affairs ( or the town hall). When they are translated they have to be legalized first by the foreign ministry then by the Belgian Embassy/ Belgian Consulate.

If you are an EU citizen  residing in Belgium and you need your apostilled civil documents be translated take contact with the town hall or Ministry of foreign affairs in Belgium for a list of sworn translators. After that the translated documents must be legalized by the Ministry of Foreign affairs in Belgium.

Here you will find the list of countries which have signed 1987 Hague Apostilles convention:

https://www.gsccca.org/notary-and-apost … untry-list


And here is some additional information. It explains what is an apostille. What is an  apostille?:

An apostille is a stamp issued by the competent authority to verify the authenticity of a signature, seal or stamp on a public act.

It does not mean that the contents of the document is correct. It aims to remove the legalization chain required in the past.

Apostilles are affixed by the countries that joined the "Hague Convention" in 1961, removing the requirement of consular legalization.

All public documents drawn up in these countries for abroad must bear the seal of the Apostille (extracted from vital records, criminal records, of any order certificates from official organizations, deeds and notarial signature certifications , diplomas issued by public institutions, etc).

Good Luck! So much information

Just a little correction : Hague apostille convention was signed in 1961 and not in 1987.. Sorry

Blue Sunny wrote:

Hello everybody!

If you are surfing like me to get some infrmation about getting married in Belgium sometimes you will encounter this:

  "certificat de coutume" which is translated to "affidavit of law". I f you wonder what it means please read the rest of the text.

The answer is from a French wedding site but very informative:

"Certificat de Coutume", "an affidavit of law" and "customs" is required by some mairies. This is a notarised statement by an attorney who is licensed to practice in both France and your home country. The Certificate de Coutume certifies that you are both free to marry and your marriage will be recognised also in your country of residence.

Some mairies will also accept a notarised affidavit (attestation tenant lieu de certificat de coutume) which can be obtained by appointment from Consular Services of local Embassy or Consulate. There is a fee for this service.

[link moderated] … h-citizens

Thank you, Blue Sunny for the information! Yes, i found this words when search about more information and not really understand what kind of certificate that is. I tried open the link that you mention but 'page cannot found'. So if we need that certificate, we just come to Belgium embassy and ask? Or maybe you know more information/sharing how to get this document.

Thanks 

Dear Karlina Han

I found some more information about  "certificat de coutume" or in English "affidavit of law". Basically it says that for Belgians who would like to get married in a foreign country with a foreign bride/groom some countries ask for affidavit of law. Belgians can get this at:  Service Public Fédéral Justice, Direction générale de la législation et des Libertés et Droits fondamentaux, Service Droit de la Famille, Boulevard de Waterloo 115 à 1000 Bruxelles (tél.: 02/542.65.11, courriel: [email protected]).

I have also read in some forums that even Belgian autorities might ask for "affidavit of law"  from certain foreign nationalities who would like to get married with a Belgian or somebody who is residing in Belgium for more than 3 months.In that case the foreigner before applying for a fiance visa in order to obtain "certificat de coutume" or " affidavit of law" he/she should go to their local town hall in their home country and get this certificate.

If you want to have some more information, you can check this site. If it doesn' t open copy/paste some of the texte in google: http://diplomatie.belgium.be/fr/Service … l/mariage/

Dans certains pays, les autorités locales demandent un certificat de coutume, reprenant les dispositions du code civil belge, en matière de mariage. Vous pouvez obtenir ce certificat auprès du Service Public Fédéral Justice, Direction générale de la législation et des Libertés et Droits fondamentaux, Service Droit de la Famille, Boulevard de Waterloo 115 à 1000 Bruxelles (tél.: 02/542.65.11, courriel: [email protected]). Dans certains pays, les autorités demanderont des attestations complémentaires, par exemple un certificat de bonne vie et mœurs ou un certificat médical.

Thank you so much for the information, Blue Sunny 

chdy wrote:

Hi Girls,

Im currently here in Belgium but will be going back to the philippines soon. Me and my boyfriend is planning to marry but we are not sure if it will be approve because he is unemployed.

my questions are:

1. will the government needs a certain amount of income for the marriage? (my boyfriend is on social security and earns minimal amount from the govt)

2. if yes, can we look for a guarantor like his parents to cover the remaining amount?

Thank you and hoping for a reply

Did you get married yet?  If not, can't you get married elsewhere?  Could he come to the Philippines and marry you there?  What about other places in Europe?  You said he receives social security: is this contribution-based or only residence-based?  If he was working before and this social security is based on contributions, he should be able to have it and move throughout the EU.  If so, he could make a visa to bring you to other EU countries such as the Netherlands in which the language requirement, exact amount of income etc. no longer apply and he only need prove your marriage and identity to get you an entry visa and only need prove he has income (they cannot specify an exact amount, by EU law) and health insurance (which he should have from Belgium and also be able to transfer).  If I have misread any of your comment, I apologize,

I have one more question. We have to provide one original and  2 copies of each document attached for our fiancée visa.

Must the copies be certified copies? For example when it comes to celibacy certificate or birth certificate or residence certificate?

Thanks in advance

About the fiancé interview:

My fiancé who will come to Belgium  to get married will have an interview first what I have understood from the former posts.

At which stage of the procedure does this interview take place?

Does he fix the appointment for an interview himself or do they inform him about the interview date automatically and when?

Another useful information that I got to know:

The person you are going to get married have to go to rue de la Regence 54, 4th floor and register his/ her lease contract for the apartment where he/ she is living. Apparently when delivering fiancee visa Belgian authorities control here (Bureau du Receveur de l'Enregistrement) in Brussels  by this authority if the lease contract is correct.

Bureau du Receveur de l'Enregistrement is open between 8:00 and 11:45.

What will you ( your partner living in Brussels) do in Brussels with the lease?

Make 2 sets of copies of your lease contract.
Make a copy of your identity card
Take with you the original of the contract, the two set of photocopies and the copy of the identity card
Take the elevator to the 4th floor
Follow the fleshes (it says: enregistrement habitation)
Take a number - wait for your turn
Tell the person that it is for marriage ( then they put 2 cachets on the very last page of the contract and they sign)
(They put the cachet and the signature on the original, and on the two photocopies. They keep one of the copies.)

As an evidence of your living conditions, you use this contract with two cachets and signature on the last page. Make copies of this

Hi I am Sussie from Indonesia and my husband is Netherlands, my husband has just got a job 1 month ago in Essen, Netherlands near Belgium and he would like to live in Belgium and would love to bring me and my children age : 27 yo, 25 yo,22 yo, 17 yo (  the children are from my preview marriage ) to live with him in Belgium  . Our marriage has registered in Gemeente in Netherlands , would anyone help us ( I hope Blue Sunny would like to help me also about the requirements for us to apply a family reunion in Belgium ? is it  necessary to legalizing and translate and legalizing again our documents  in Indonesia or we just only legalize in Indonesia then we can translate the documents in Belgium  ? thank you for advance

Hello Sussie,

Hope you're doing great!

As I understood your situation, you're husband is a Nederlander and would like to live and bring you and your kids from Indonesia in Belgium. To be honest, I'm not well verse with family reunification visa as I came here in Belgium from the Philippines with another visa type. However, I did check the Belgium Foreign Affairs website for you and found some helpful links that may help you progress on your application. You might want to contact the Embassy of Belgium in Indonesia or visit them personally to know the requirements & procedures.

Kindly see below.

All the best for your application. :-)

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Embassy Jakarta

Applications for Schengen visas are handled by the Netherlands Embassy - jakarta.embassytools.com/

Deutsche Bank Building 16th floor. Jalan Imam Bonjol 80
10310 Jakarta
Indonesia
Opening hours and closing days
Ambassador Patrick HERMANN
+62 21 316 20 30
+62 21 316 20 35
+62 816 947 859 Emergency number outside opening hours
[email protected]
http://diplomatie.belgium.be/indonesia/http://countries.diplomatie.belgium.be/ … a_belgium/

Wow! So lucky to found this forum!

I'm from Indonesia, i have a boyfriend with UK citizenship but he lived in belgium for about 10 years already.

I have business visa for schengen, i was on my business meeting in Paris on october 1 and i visit him here in gent after i finished my meeting. And then we decided to get married here.

The question is, should i fly back to Indonesia and apply for marriage visa or i can just use my business visa and register at town hall? Also, my visa expired on march 2016 multiple entry max 90 days, is that means i should get out from schengen on December and fly back here after few days?

Thanks a bunch for the reply

Hi Ari Kurniati,

I hope i can try to help you by give little information. You can either apply marriage visa from Indonesia or apply directly to town hall at your boyfriend place. But at first, better for ask clearly at town hall for what kind of documents that you will need. From what i know, your documents need to legalise and translate in Indonesia and after you can bring to Belgium for register at town hall. If you decide to do by Belgium embassy at Indonesia, you can ask all the information you need to them. The officers there are nice and cooperatif.

Hope this can help and good luck

Karlina Han wrote:

Hi Ari Kurniati,

I hope i can try to help you by give little information. You can either apply marriage visa from Indonesia or apply directly to town hall at your boyfriend place. But at first, better for ask clearly at town hall for what kind of documents that you will need. From what i know, your documents need to legalise and translate in Indonesia and after you can bring to Belgium for register at town hall. If you decide to do by Belgium embassy at Indonesia, you can ask all the information you need to them. The officers there are nice and cooperatif.

Hope this can help and good luck

Hi karlina!

Thank you so much! I will go to the townhall today ^_^

Hi everyone!

Is there anyone in here can share certificat de coutume for Indonesian and Belgium marriage? I'm Indonesian and my boyfriend is Belgium citizen, we decide to do marriage in here, but we little bit loss about coutume document. I called already Indonesian embassy at Brussels but the man in the phone not really give many information and not too friendly too
Because our place not close to brussels either, so will be a big help if someone can share the document to me, so we know for sure  what kind of document that we really need.

Thank you!

hi girl

Hi Cindy,

From my experience, for marriage in Belgium, there is no minimum salary etc. As long as your visa still valid and your future husband has Belgium ID you still can marry. The problem is for stay longer in Belgium after marriage then your husband has to have minimum 900 or 1000/ month i think (please ask again from the commune to be sure). all of this is to issue your Belgium ID. The government want to make sure that you guys have sufficient financial to support life in Belgium before they issue your ID.

I wish this info will help.

Cheers,
Enny

Hi Karlina, you can just come to Indonesian Embassy, and ask directly from them. Bring your passport, and photo also in case.

It is a petty that the communication by phone normally doesn't help a lot because you might talked to a wrong person. Email might help, but so slow. You can come straight away, but check the opening hours and day carefully so you don't waste your time there.

The right person in Indonesian Embassy understand what is the letters that you mean, they issued that many times. Normally the process doesn't take longer than 1 week.

Cheers,
Enny

Thanks, Enny. Yes,  I finally came to Embassy of Indonesia and asked more informations. More easy like that.