Chinese malaysian searching jobs in UK. Is it possible to find a job?

Dear Mr. Gregory Presley,

Ok.

I will email you my CV very soon.

Thanks for your reply

Regards,
Chloe Lee Chin Yee

Hello rinoa1989,

I would suggest you to read the Guide section- Work visas in the United Kingdom so that you know about the procedures to follow to work in Uk.

Best of luck..

Regards
Yuveshen

Dear Yuveshen,

Ok thanks..

Because previously there's a cruise ship job but I found out its a scam..

I received the offer letter from email -_-

Luckily I did some research...they want me to bank in money first before I go there..

The majority of these types of "offers" are a scam. I'm confident enough to say all are scams. Employers don't come on forums offering someone work. That's simply not how things work. Especially ones offering jobs in the UK or elsewhere in Europe. By asking you to pay a fee, send a C.V, and that they will take care of all the necessities to ensure you're able to come and work here. They do that because they obviously know how attractive the offer would be to those interested in moving here, making them think that it's only a relatively modest sum to pay, and a job will be given at the end of it. Of course that would be something worth paying for, if the offer was indeed genuine, but it never is!

Work is dependent on a number of factors, depending on what you want to do.

Assuming you can get legal entry and the right to work freely in the UK, your language skills are in great demand in Chinese takeaways, working the counter.
That might very well sound silly, but many of those jobs are pretty well paid and, if nothing else, will provide an income until you find the type of work you want.

The reason for the employers' need is simple. Their staff are very commonly mixed mainland and HK chinese, so they need both languages to communicate with the staff, and English to deal with the customers.

Getting the visa will be the hard work.

Oh haha ok thanks for your info

Fred wrote:

Work is dependent on a number of factors, depending on what you want to do.

Assuming you can get legal entry and the right to work freely in the UK, your language skills are in great demand in Chinese takeaways, working the counter.
That might very well sound silly, but many of those jobs are pretty well paid and, if nothing else, will provide an income until you find the type of work you want.

The reason for the employers' need is simple. Their staff are very commonly mixed mainland and HK chinese, so they need both languages to communicate with the staff, and English to deal with the customers.

Getting the visa will be the hard work.

Oh yeah I saw it stated must have the IELTS certificate? And many other english certificate I'm so blur lol looking at the website of UK.gov
However, I saw those job searching web site like monster or reed, the employers mostly stated the applicant must have degree certificate from UK university. Most of them stated like that. That's why I really don't know should I keep looking job or not or just go there to find jobs.

But I dun have english certificate only degree certificate from my country. I dun think the employers there will accept my degree. Haha. But my course was really conducted fully in English -_- and we also studied English from kindergarten until university level. It's compulsory subject. -_-

rinoa1989 wrote:

Fred wrote:

Work is dependent on a number of factors, depending on what you want to do.

Assuming you can get legal entry and the right to work freely in the UK, your language skills are in great demand in Chinese takeaways, working the counter.
That might very well sound silly, but many of those jobs are pretty well paid and, if nothing else, will provide an income until you find the type of work you want.

The reason for the employers' need is simple. Their staff are very commonly mixed mainland and HK chinese, so they need both languages to communicate with the staff, and English to deal with the customers.

Getting the visa will be the hard work.

Oh yeah I saw it stated must have the IELTS certificate? And many other english certificate I'm so blur lol looking at the website of UK.gov
However, I saw those job searching web site like monster or reed, the employers mostly stated the applicant must have degree certificate from UK university. Most of them stated like that. That's why I really don't know should I keep looking job or not or just go there to find jobs.

But I dun have english certificate only degree certificate from my country. I dun think the employers there will accept my degree. Haha. But my course was really conducted fully in English -_- and we also studied English from kindergarten until university level. It's compulsory subject. -_-

"dun?"......

chuckle_butty wrote:

rinoa1989 wrote:

Fred wrote:

Work is dependent on a number of factors, depending on what you want to do.

Assuming you can get legal entry and the right to work freely in the UK, your language skills are in great demand in Chinese takeaways, working the counter.
That might very well sound silly, but many of those jobs are pretty well paid and, if nothing else, will provide an income until you find the type of work you want.

The reason for the employers' need is simple. Their staff are very commonly mixed mainland and HK chinese, so they need both languages to communicate with the staff, and English to deal with the customers.

Getting the visa will be the hard work.

Oh yeah I saw it stated must have the IELTS certificate? And many other english certificate I'm so blur lol looking at the website of UK.gov
However, I saw those job searching web site like monster or reed, the employers mostly stated the applicant must have degree certificate from UK university. Most of them stated like that. That's why I really don't know should I keep looking job or not or just go there to find jobs.

But I dun have english certificate only degree certificate from my country. I dun think the employers there will accept my degree. Haha. But my course was really conducted fully in English -_- and we also studied English from kindergarten until university level. It's compulsory subject. -_-

"dun?"......

Haha it's just the short form for 'don't' in our country for chatting..😅

rinoa1989 wrote:

chuckle_butty wrote:

"dun?"......

Haha it's just the short form for 'don't' in our country for chatting..😅

And, by way of a small aside, mine.
The word is in common use in Yorkshire in the forms:

He's dun it
dun't do it

Here's an option to toss into the ring.

Have you considered taking a degree at a British University? The costs are notable, but the visa also allows part time work.
Your English is pretty good, so TEFL or whatever should be little problem, and the degree will be worth a fortune to you.

As another aside - I love the name, "chuckle butty". It makes me think of laughing whilst munching on a chip buttie.

You dont mention it, but maybe you dont have any work experience yet?  That would be an issue but doing an internship in the UK might get round it.  Your English skills are taken as said (i.e. a requirement) but its your other languages that will get you a job, e.g. Mandarin. There is a specialist recruiter www.multilingualvacancies.com/ for this type of job, but the issue in the UK is that any agency by law has to ask you to produce your permission to work to offer your services to their clients. That is why the internship may be the best route to get experience and work part-time as it will be on a student visa I guess. Whatever, your other languages are your asset, including in the United Nations, which has Mandarin as one of the official languages. AEISC is a good organisation to look at. There is a Malaysian branch on Facebook and they have a general website. Its about internships etc.

Fred wrote:

rinoa1989 wrote:

chuckle_butty wrote:

"dun?"......

Haha it's just the short form for 'don't' in our country for chatting..😅

And, by way of a small aside, mine.
The word is in common use in Yorkshire in the forms:

He's dun it
dun't do it

Here's an option to toss into the ring.

Have you considered taking a degree at a British University? The costs are notable, but the visa also allows part time work.
Your English is pretty good, so TEFL or whatever should be little problem, and the degree will be worth a fortune to you.

As another aside - I love the name, "chuckle butty". It makes me think of laughing whilst munching on a chip buttie.

Hi,

Lol I already have a degree in business administration...I don't think I have enough money to study anymore haha

Oh.l don't have TEFL lol..so I must take this test in my own country first if I wanna to go there right? Haha but IELTS is also acceptable right? According to my research in gov.uk haha there are so many English exams such as Cambridge also lol -_-

Gravitas wrote:

You dont mention it, but maybe you dont have any work experience yet?  That would be an issue but doing an internship in the UK might get round it.  Your English skills are taken as said (i.e. a requirement) but its your other languages that will get you a job, e.g. Mandarin. There is a specialist recruiter www.multilingualvacancies.com/ for this type of job, but the issue in the UK is that any agency by law has to ask you to produce your permission to work to offer your services to their clients. That is why the internship may be the best route to get experience and work part-time as it will be on a student visa I guess. Whatever, your other languages are your asset, including in the United Nations, which has Mandarin as one of the official languages. AEISC is a good organisation to look at. There is a Malaysian branch on Facebook and they have a general website. Its about internships etc.

Hi,

Oh thank you for your info.

I will look into it ^^

I am afraid the answer to your question is almost 0 chance. Here are the reasons 1) UK has been working very hard to reduce no of foreign workers  2) you don't possess special skills.

If you seriously want to seek employment in any western countries, i would suggest you to become 1) a Software Engineer specialises in SAP programming  2) a Chemical Engineer  or  3) an international school trained school teacher (eg. IB/PGCE). The value of a business degree alone is almost like ....a thin air. This degree cert may not even guarantee you a job in Msia, lest abroad.

One more option - marry a British man.

A reply to Fred.

She is not a cook, so she can never get a work permit. Even if she is an experienced chef, the Chinese takeway in UK may not want to hire her at all, here are the reasons 1) to be able to get work permit the chef must be paid well  2) the owner must advertise the job for 3 months and UK home office may consider her application if no one else from UK applies. 

It is an open secret that ALL takeaways earn their fortune through avoiding tax illegally. It is a fact takeaway owner will not declare high income for their staff as this will greatly reduce their profit. They will not pay for work permit application fee (around GBP2.5K) and neither will they advertise for 3 months just to help her.

Based on her current qualification and experience, she has 0% chance to work in UK, not to say she is no good but in fact she is just too ordinary in the eyes of UK home office.

Oh ok, thanks so much for your kind reply.

I have the following ideas for you.

1) Seek employment in Singapore. The salary in Singapore is higher than UK and work permit should be easier too.

2) Study 2yrs master degree in continental Europe. The tuition fee for certain technical majors are usually free for both domestic and international students. You will have a much higher chance of getting employed if you are a software programmer.

3) Become a nurse. Nurse is often in demand in most western nations. In Philippine, even doctors changed their career to become a nurse just for the sake of working abroad.

4) Become a baker or professional chef like sushi master. Chef can be employed by restaurant in uk.

I hope these suggestion help.

hi rinoa1989, have a look at this http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 … sh-schools

In addition to those jobs i previously mentioned, uk is also severely lacking teachers, esp.  the maths and science teachers. To be qualified you will have to get a proper teacher qualification from an English speaking country. Singapore is the top leader in education in the world, so it is an ideal choice for you. http://www.moe.gov.sg/careers/teach/pos … education/

samsam123 wrote:

A reply to Fred.

She is not a cook, so she can never get a work permit. Even if she is an experienced chef, the Chinese takeway in UK may not want to hire her at all, here are the reasons 1) to be able to get work permit the chef must be paid well  2) the owner must advertise the job for 3 months and UK home office may consider her application if no one else from UK applies. 

It is an open secret that ALL takeaways earn their fortune through avoiding tax illegally. It is a fact takeaway owner will not declare high income for their staff as this will greatly reduce their profit. They will not pay for work permit application fee (around GBP2.5K) and neither will they advertise for 3 months just to help her.

Based on her current qualification and experience, she has 0% chance to work in UK, not to say she is no good but in fact she is just too ordinary in the eyes of UK home office.

Missed that post.
Yep, I know.
I should be open - I knew a lot of Chinese take away/restaurant owners in the UK, so I know a lot about the trade. It's actually not that far removed from the normal (and probably totally illegal) way most small businesses operate when they can get away with it.
Obviously I'm way out of date as I've been outside the country for over 8 years, but most employed illegals and/or asylum seekers as pretty much most of their staff. I decided I didn't want to know that, so chose never to find out.
The last part generally excluded the HK owned businesses, but the Fujian guys and their 'open for 12 months and up' sell business model was taking over rapidly at that time.
Apart from a lot of business I did through Chinese contacts, I made some really good mates, so found out a lot most of us white dudes never get to know.
I also went, he says whilst upsetting grammar nerds by splitting an infinitive, to some wild parties.

Severely lacking because teachers are leaving the profession:

http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 … s-recruits

I know someone who worked in several schools including the referral units before. According to them, the extremely misbehaved kids here are spoiled to the extreme level. They often use f words in school and call their teachers b**** with no consequence. In certain secondary schools, pupils are rewarded in cash for participating in class too, what a bizarre way to plead students to do their work in school!! Since the education system here prohibits schools from expelling bad students permanently and no repeat of the year is allowed, so it is extremely hard to manage misbehaved students in class. Apart from this, low pay, heavy workload and no time for family are the main reason why many quit this career for good. Don't get me wrong, there are many great schools in UK too, but these schools are usually very poor, only those with terrible students get more financial support by ministry of education. Some referral units offer weekly horse riding and regularly  free outdoor trips too.

I don't know if things have changed for the worse, but there were consequences as I found out many times. The better the school you attend, the more likely you will get excluded. The better they are, the less tolerant of misdemeanor. Depending on what you've done, they will try dealing with you first with a warning, then detention (usually staying back after school writing many lines after another "I will not <insert whatever was done>"  as a lesson not to repeat it), informing your parents, taking you out of classes and placing you in a separate room where there is someone who knows how to manage problematic students, so as not to disrupt the rest of the students in the class, sending you to the headmasters office to instill fear and make you quickly realize what you're doing is pretty serious if you're seeing the head, temporarily suspension, if all those options don't work, and there is more which I haven't listed, then unfortunately it's permanent exclusion. Some things immediately lead to permanent exclusion. It depends what school the person goes to. Once they are permanently excluded, they usually end up at a worse school obviously, where it takes more to get excluded. If you do manage to get excluded again, you end up at an even worse place. I honestly blame the parents. Usually the school tries to work together with the parent to sort out whatever the issue is. If the parent isn't interested, then neither would the student be. If they come from a background where offensive words and violence is the norm to deal with disagreement, then that's what they will bring with them into school. If they don't respect their parents, they won't respect their teachers. Some parents can't handle any criticism of their child, and will defend them when clearly they were in the wrong. So if parents don't respect teachers, then neither will their child. I attended Catholic schools mainly, so there was very little problems. We would stand up whenever a teacher entered the class. And sit down when told to do so. Calling a teacher anything would be completely unheard of.

Some may get a week and some may get a term, but there is no permanent exclusion in state school system. The "worst" that can happen to a student is that he/she may get sent to referral unit or autistic school (if statement can be provided by the authority).

I don't know if we are talking about the same thing or not, but you can get permanently excluded from school, meaning that you're expelled from that school, and can not return back to it.

Haha I'm not interested in IT stuff -_-

Baker haha I do interested in bakery hahahaa but to go oversea the spending is high so at this moment I might just staying in Malaysia stop dreaming to go oversea since I still owe government RM40k study loan. They might blacklist me if I dun pay hehe anyway thanks ^^

Haha that's funny Lolll no British man will like me hahahaha I'm not going there to marry haha

rinoa1989 wrote:

Haha that's funny Lolll no British man will like me hahahaha I'm not going there to marry haha

Maybe you aren't going there to marry, or even care about meeting guys intending a relationship, but you're way wrong about British guys not liking ladies such as yourself.

XB23 wrote:

Severely lacking because teachers are leaving the profession:

http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 … s-recruits

If our OP is suitably qualified, she might well have a chance to enter the teaching profession.
However, she'd also have to be certified as insane,
I know teacher with close to 30 years of experience who are leaving because they can't stand the working conditions. The loss of discipline in schools has made their lives a misery.
One I knew left in favour of working the tills in Tesco. When people with such experience leave in such ways, there has to be something very wrong with the system.

Fred wrote:

rinoa1989 wrote:

Haha that's funny Lolll no British man will like me hahahaha I'm not going there to marry haha

Maybe you aren't going there to marry, or even care about meeting guys intending a relationship, but you're way wrong about British guys not liking ladies such as yourself.

Hahaha i see...Okok..their countries have too many pretty ladies already haha