Guayaquil might be my new home

Point taken. I still believe a person can and should be able to express their opinion with no repercussions, Disagreement is one thing--censoring is another.

jim83p wrote:

Hi there all,

Well, I'm seriously looking at moving to Guayaquil, and that is because of where my girlfriend currently lives. As we speak, I am here now on an holiday to see her, and a fact finding mission.

I'm from Sydney, Australia, and just recently lost my job in the printing Industry, thanks due to the print industry dying in the arse in Australia, my previous employer had to put off three workers just over a month ago, I was one of them. No loyalty after 10 years service when your company is broke, that's just how it works.

Anyway, maybe it was meant to be, as I'm still only 31, my gf who is local Ecuadorian is 28.

We want to nip the long distance thing in the butt, and be together properly, so we can action all the plans we have made, the plan was originally for her to come to Australia, but that now seems masked by so much red tape, she can't even come holiday without applying for visas etc, which is rediculous considering as a aussie, I can come come to ecuador without visa for holidays up to 90 days a year no probs.  But An Ecuadorian trying to get a holiday visa, they have totally unfair rules about criteria, coming from a poor country (To so called aussie standard, not my words, thats aussie immigration) proving that they have suffient funds if they are on a tourist visa because they cant work etc etc, yet the Australian government tries to proclaim it is not racist...
And even though Marriage is on the cards, it still doesn't warrant her an automatic Aussie visa. A possible temporary one maybe, until after 2 years after marriage. And then, having proved to aussie immigration that it is 100percent legit after that time, they "might" grant a permanent visa.

What a joke.

So with the things aligning, Guayaquil might be my new home. It seems the best logical step to starting a family with my girl down the track,
But because it is a change in plans, and I am struggling with my spanish, All the hints I can get, for what I'd have to do to relocate, be allowed to stay, and of course employment, cant start a family in a new country as the bread winner if I can't get a job, and if I'm starting a family, I couldn't expect my future wife, to work when we got to the point of her being pregnant, lol.

Couldn't just settle for a plain jane aussie after all, the things we do for that special one

Cheers,
James

Hello James!

Nice to hear that are you coming over, "chasing" your girl.

Have you try duolingo.com Its a fun way to learn a different language, it might help!

About how to get married in Ec, please check this link:
Registro Civil
And this other:
How to marry a Ecuadorian?

Its says:
SI UNO O LOS DOS CONTRAYENTES SON EXTRANJEROS:

Certificado original de la filiación y estado civil, conferido por la embajada o consulado de país de origen en el Ecuador; o, certificado concedido en el origen con la debida autenticación del Cónsul ecuatoriano en dicho país o con sello de apostillamiento, y legalmente traducida de ser el caso.
Declaración juramentada, en el que indique su estado civil, nacionalidad, nombres y apellidos de los padres; y, fecha de nacimiento, en el caso de que no exista embajada, consulado o representante diplomático del país de origen acreditado en el Ecuador, el Ministerio de Relaciones Exterior certificará sobre este particular.
Documentos que acrediten el estado civil de divorciado o viudo, debidamente autenticados por el consulado ecuatoriano del país de origen, o con el sello de apostillamiento, y legalmente traducidos de ser el caso.
El contrayente extranjero menor de edad, deberá sujetarse  a lo dispuesto para cada caso particular.
Para el caso de los contrayentes originarios de los países miembros de la Comunidad Andina, se aplicará lo establecido en la Decisión 503, publicada en el Registro Oficial Nº 385 de fecha 7 de agosto de 2001.
Documento debidamente conferido por el Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores, que pruebe la calidad de refugiado y declaración juramentada ante Autoridad competente, en el que indique cuál es su estado civil, nacionalidad, nombres y apellidos de los padres; y, fecha de nacimiento.
Para poder contraer matrimonio las extranjeras y extranjeros no residentes presentarán su pasaporte original, el que deberá contener el registro de entrada al país otorgado por la Dirección Nacional de Migración o la autorización de su permanencia legal. VERY IMPORTANT: >>>El extranjero o extranjera no residente deberá permanecer en la República del Ecuador por lo menos setenta y cinco días (75) consecutivos anteriores a la fecha de la celebración del matrimonio<<<<, con excepción de los extranjeros o extranjeras que tuvieren hijos reconocidos con ciudadanos ecuatorianos quienes sí podrán contraer matrimonio de manera inmediata.
Visa de No Migrante vigente.

My suggestion: Make a bunch of copies of all your docs, color copies.
In Ecuador, we love copies, color copies, so better keep many everytime that you go to a gov off just in case they ask you a few, you are ready instead of trying to find a place where to make copies.

Seems like there is a new rule: One dont has to proof that one is single. But, I suggest to bring any doc that may proof your marital status. (just in case, better have it and dont need it than need it and being too far away to get it)

VRN

Thank you for the links and hints, after I get back from classes this afternoon, I will browse through the info and try and decipher Government puzzles

Jim,

Why don't you go over to InterNations.org and sign up (it's free). I serve as Ambassador for the Guayaquil community. InterNations is one of the largest Expat organizations in the world. If you join, see the Events section and have you and your lady sign up for the next scheduled event (also free). If you do this, at the next event will be a highly skilled Visa specialist, who is a regular member of our network. You can talk to her...have some fun...meet some folks...that kind of thing.  Welcome to the other side of the world.

Hector

HGQ2112 wrote:

Jim,

Why don't you go over to InterNations.org and sign up (it's free). I serve as Ambassador for the Guayaquil community. InterNations is one of the largest Expat organizations in the world. If you join, see the Events section and have you and your lady sign up for the next scheduled event (also free). If you do this, at the next event will be a highly skilled Visa specialist, who is a regular member of our network. You can talk to her...have some fun...meet some folks...that kind of thing.  Welcome to the other side of the world.

Hector

Sweet,

I am a member there now too,

Not looking forward to fling out of Guayaquil this weekend, but as it was only a month visit this time


Already looking how to be back here sooner.

But while I have apartment rent and car payments coming out in Australia while I am here, i need to go tidy up those loose ends first, like selling the car for now so i can come back for longer trips etc while studying the language to become more confident of being able to get a c=visa to allow me to work here in a spanish speaking country etc

The criminal record report can be up to 180 days old (not 90) as previously mentioned.

MikeGB wrote:

The criminal record report can be up to 180 days old (not 90) as previously mentioned.

ahh, okay, either way, That should be sweet as, A couple of speeding fines from back home isn't too much to worry about when I get that report either way

Not exactly a pretty picture of your home country. I think it is good to be open and express your opinions --but try to keep it neutral. I could go on about Canada and what is wrong there but I wouldn't because it is after all, a beautiful and free country. I have had to adjust my thinking and at times my 'speaking' as on this blog because all sorts of hell breaks loose if you dare to offer an unpopular thought or two. The one thing I would say about Canadians is that we aren't afraid to express our opinions and devil take the hindermost.

Jim, it isn't just Australia that has such restrictions for Ecuador or other international visitors. Many countries have restrictions where those countries believe other nationalities may come in as visitors and decide to stay illegally. It's not unheard of for a dual national, married couple to enter the country and as the native waits while their spouse goes to the rest room the foreign partner disappears, never to be seen again.

If you haven't been in Ecuador for at least 6 months to a year or two, you may still be in the honeymoon phase of your relationship with the country. Ecuador is a relatively easy country to enter as a visitor and to remain here for up to 6 months is not a daunting task. I've been in Ecuador for 4 years and out of my native country for 6. Even with like-minded friends surrounding you, it can be a challenge living in a country not your own. It's possible if you do not have special skills, it likely will be difficult for you to gain residency. Another site, on FB, might be worth your checking out, Ecuador Expats.

Is anyone but JIM using this blog?

Barbara Suderman wrote:

Is anyone but JIM using this blog?

yes

All of this is true, I admit,

hence it just just makes the payoff at the end of all the extra effort worth it all the more

'Yes'????? Who???? All the posts seem to be from or in response to Jim. I am tired of reading about his comings and goings. Let' change the focus. What about plants--are people allowed to bring any plants at all into the country from abroad--herb seeds for example??

Barbara Suderman wrote:

'Yes'????? Who???? All the posts seem to be from or in response to Jim. I am tired of reading about his comings and goings. Let' change the focus. What about plants--are people allowed to bring any plants at all into the country from abroad--herb seeds for example??

Perhaps you could start a new thread instead of trying to hijack this one.

Barbara Suderman wrote:

'Yes'????? Who???? All the posts seem to be from or in response to Jim. I am tired of reading about his comings and goings. Let' change the focus. What about plants--are people allowed to bring any plants at all into the country from abroad--herb seeds for example??

If you actually read all of the posts on this thread, you would have read one left by admin on page 1

copied and pasted it says


Hi everyone,

@jim83p > Please note that i have created a new topic with all your posts on the Guayaquil forum for a better visibility.

Thank you,
Christine
Expat.com team




So there is probably a reason this thread has a lot of questions and answers about me, it's because admin moved my posts and set this thread up for that very reason.

Cheers

Oh so its a thread--Didn't realize one could have your own personal thread. OK. Thx

No intent on my part to hijack or be rude. Why offer such a comment?