Find friends Who can help me to visit uk

Hello everyone  ;);)
I am Youssef from Algeria I want to visit uk I respect this country very much
Is it possible to find a friend to help me
I'll wait for your response With Patience
Thank you  :heart:

As in sponsor you?

allali youcef wrote:

Hello everyone  ;);)
I am Youssef from Algeria I want to visit uk I respect this country very much
Is it possible to find a friend to help me
I'll wait for your response With Patience
Thank you  :heart:


By "help" do you mean sponsorship?

You expect someone to invite a stranger to London, sponsor you and pay a huge fine for every day that you overstay the visa in the UK? There are other ways at immigrating to London my friend

http://www.ehow.com/list_6848626_uk-imm … ayers.html

The UK has instituted severe penalty fines for the sponsoring relatives of any visa overstayer past the 28-day grace period. The sponsoring relative is faced with a £1,000 to £5,000 fine as well as possible jail time. These new regulations went into effect in February 2008 along with the Parliament-amended laws concerning visa overstay penalties.


To sponsor a stranger would be very foolish, could clear out your bank account, and give you a free holiday at her Majesty's pleasure.

All he needs is a 'friend' to 'just' send him an invitation letter, supported with a few docs, to apply for the visa. That's 'all' there is to it.

no there is any one  :(

Not particularly sponsorship it can be with invitation  :idontagree:

nn my friend Why all this complexity I am not looking for  immigrating !!!!!!!  :/
and Why pay a huge fine for every day that i overstay !????!!!!!   :/
It's just a visit !!!! It is not that complicated  as I guess  ???
But thank you my friend  :top:

What are you talking About  :/
Why all this Complexity It's just a visit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

allali youcef wrote:

What are you talking About  :/
Why all this Complexity It's just a visit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because anyone who sponsors you has to pay up if you don't leave.
You'd have to be totally mad to sponsor a stranger.

ahhh ok So is the issue of trust
For this I'm looking for a friend  :D

allali youcef wrote:

nn my friend Why all this complexity I am not looking for  immigrating !!!!!!!  :/
and Why pay a huge fine for every day that i overstay !????!!!!!   :/
It's just a visit !!!! It is not that complicated  as I guess  ???
But thank you my friend  :top:


You see, this is precisely my point with my previous comment. That 'all' it is, is 'just' a visit to you. This is not how it's seen here. It is certainly not 'just' a simple visit, and someone can not 'just' send you an invitation letter. As Fred mentioned, there is severe legal and financial consequences faced by the sponsor if you decide not to adhere to the terms of the visa. I don't think anyone wants to face a large fine and/or go to prison based on your promise to leave the country before/on the due date. I refused my own cousin's request as I had no guarantee he will return back. It's not only about trust. But lack of control over someone, and being the one facing the punishment when it goes wrong. I trust him, but the moment he sets foot in a very different country than his, I'm sure he will change his mind at some point and decide to make a run for it, go into hiding, and I go into prison. Like you, he doesn't comprehend the seriousness of overstaying because no-one actually comes looking for over-stayers in those countries, and if caught, you can pay your way out of any trouble faced. Doesn't quite work like that here. This is something you need to understand. Then you will know why it's not 'just' a visit.

I have to be entirely honest.
Since you're advertising on a forum for this extremely dangerous service, you can't have any friends in the UK who are willing to take the risk.
That means you're looking for a mug.

(British slang for a fool or someone who will do anything for you.)

ahhhh ok so ht's complicated at the end !!!!!
Your words could be true but this speech does not apply to me because i have live Here  i not nide to Stay there !!!! it's a Just visit I can go wherever i want France Italie ... but a love England and I want to visit here  thats all it's not  Paradise !!!
These actions Exist in all countries Visa in my country is one of the moste stringent visa  But if someone wants to visit My country i woude like To send him an invitation
But thank you after all  :top::top:

I reckon it's more to do with the naivety of the system we have in place, than to hope someone falls for it, and use them to gain entry into the country for a purpose other than a visit. I have family members who don't think it's a big deal at all to come on a tourist visa when the intention is to stay and work. Such is their lack of understanding about the rules, and the severity of not adhering to them, that they've asked me if I can host them. As if no-one will come knocking and looking for them, and me. Hopefully he has now understood it's certainly a big deal, even if it's an innocent visit for a few days. I don't know if it's even legal to sponsor someone who isn't coming to work for you, or is not related, or know anything about. Being responsible for a complete stranger doesn't make sense. Surely they will ask how do you know the person and what your relationship with them is. Anyway - allali youcef - Realistically you won't find any 'friends' who will do this. Even family members can be reluctant! See if you can obtain a visa yourself, as you will be wasting time waiting for someone to sponsor you:

https://www.gov.uk/browse/visas-immigra … stay-visas

Your profile says nothing about visiting the UK........you want to MOVE to New Caledonia.
CB

Thank you my friend :)   XB23 On your advice

chuckle_butty   yes i want to move to new caledonia and i want to visit uk Is there problem !!!  :unsure

Not my problem that you Suffering from obsessive Fred  !!!!  :unsure
I do not know how did you think about this matter in laste thate is the way you think
If i Supposing thate You are right  I have no audacity to Coming  in A global site and mug People
shame on you  :mad:

allali youcef wrote:

ahhhh ok so ht's complicated at the end !!!!!
Your words could be true but this speech does not apply to me because i have live Here  i not nide to Stay there !!!! it's a Just visit I can go wherever i want France Italie ... but a love England and I want to visit here  thats all it's not  Paradise !!!
These actions Exist in all countries Visa in my country is one of the moste stringent visa  But if someone wants to visit My country i woude like To send him an invitation
But thank you after all  :top::top:


It's not about being a paradise denying people entry. That's not the point. It's the very strict laws, and what happens when you break them. You can't get away with anything here. Everything against the law is a big deal. Even the rather small stuff. You can watch TV at home without a problem. We face legal action without a license. You can drive while using your mobile, and without a seat belt. We would get stopped. And punished. Sometimes living here, with the laws we have and the consequences faced when you break them, I feel like they are looking for any excuse to throw people in prison, and tarnish their criminal record. It's this that keeps me and others away from involving our-self in anything that can lead to the law being broken, and trust me, there is many - including sponsoring someone. Take it from me, nothing goes un-punished, everything is recorded against you, your reputation can easily be damaged which will impact your future, and a sorry won't be accepted for overstaying. Otherwise I wouldn't mind sponsoring someone.

XB23
Thank you for all your Advice you are a good person  :)

allali youcef wrote:

chuckle_butty   yes i want to move to new caledonia and i want to visit uk Is there problem !!!  :unsure


Easy tiger...........enjoy your life.

hhhhh thank you  :top:

If it's just a visit apply for a tourist visa. Simple.

Hi, I am Vladimir from Russia, Moscow and I feel the same. Can we help each other ?

You feel the same about what?

About Britain. Enchanted.

Dear bother I have 2 good friend from your country but it is not possible to come UK. Only if vyoubtry to married some one online. That's is only thing can bring you in uk

Not exactly that hopeless, not for me. I toured Britain few years ago on invitation of a hifi brand which I promoted in my country. I also discussed employment as columnist writer with big British hifi mag - and those only few examples of my break-through attempts. One may dismiss them as futile but I am awaiting an ear who will listen and want my  powers. A buddy of mine has promoted himself and became a who-is-who personality in British world. I am in this discussion here to state my case only. I actually write novels in English imitating J H Chase very closely, if I may say so, so I do not have to fake marriage to a local or seek a carpenter job  - I am a writer.

Lots of writers in England, and lots of top quality experts on HiFi.
I'm unsure about the quantity of those groups with the required mix of skills.
However, much as it's hard work to break into that rather specialist field, I wish you the best of luck with it.
Out of interest, which manufacturer were you dealing with?

Сute remark on smile, thanks - wasted on me I'm 'fraid. So is one regarding many writers/experts. It takes more than that, being an audiophile, and whereas there's great mag HiFi+ - there are just rags with students for contributors who do inferior reports. These media incidentally have branched out in Russia which fact marks their weak position more...  It was Mordaunt Short speakers co. , defunct now for tight competition.  Was great trip where one David Jeffreys (aficionado manager in business) guided our editor group. Was the high times when Russian market boomed and invited British business - unlike nowadays. I mean to rub it in: I am not an adventurist or novice or commonplace that are legion to employ. I need just a break and I was damn close a number of instances.  I would be out-written by some Chase or Messenger (of HiFi Choice) but I could well stand on my own and earn for employer by virtue of being exotic at least.

If I'm allowed, I'm at the moment getting out to a local Beatlovsky New Year's nightclub party with good cover bands anticipated (and hopefully no bomb planted - bad joke) - by way of poor compensation of staying here instead of being out there in UK, even in Gibraltar... And what a shock it was visiting London back in 1993! In fact, on departure I reeled on airport floor in hysteria to beg to leave me there as a sweeper or a gardener. OK, that one was to keep you guys entertained with the topic.

I just don't understand how a non native speaker hopes to convince immigration that there is nobody in the EU that could do the job. Add to that - a writer can quite easily be employed while still in Russia. I think it's a hard sell, but good luck.

Would need no red tape - direct employment by an interested company with formalities taken care of, it's all in the regulations, I have checked out. Why, I met an Indian of poor command of English, on the staff in Mordaunt Short, where I could easily fit as well - but the Indian was of Commonwealth, that's the angle. The protectionism is justified of course... Regarding local setup  - it's a Mad Max reality, and no logic applies, no job is open to me. Won't bother with details.

rustygecko wrote:

I just don't understand how a non native speaker hopes to convince immigration that there is nobody in the EU that could do the job. Add to that - a writer can quite easily be employed while still in Russia. I think it's a hard sell, but good luck.


Hifi probably isn't specialist enough as there are a whole host of hifi mags, all populated with British or EU contributers.
The Japanese  and Americans get their bit in because of the many Jap companies and Bose from the US, but Russia has no hifi presence in the UK, if they make any top end stuff at all.

I know the loudspeakers in question, but they were one of many very nice quality manufacturers in a shrinking market, so it doesn't surprise to hear of their demise.
I've been out of that trade for a good number of years (and only in it for about five), so I'm way out of date, thus unable to help our Russian friend directly.

I suppose there might be some mileage in writing about Alcom and Neyton.
Maybe you could put something together for What HiFi or HiFi Choice and see if it gets you anywhere.

Most of the Indians get in using agents that bribe the Borders Agency. Most of the Borders Agency people are immigrants. The price for this service I'm told is £6-10,000.
There is no advantage to a commonwealth citizen.

@rustygecko come on, you're posting a severe crime accusation. It just can't be true and we assent this type of content here ...

I know what I'm saying is true because I know someone who works for one of these lawyers. But there have been prosecutions and you may find this if interest:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ … andal.html

There was also a Panorama doc.

But just speak to anyone in the Borders Agency.

rustygecko wrote:

I know what I'm saying is true because I know someone who works for one of these lawyers. But there have been prosecutions and you may find this if interest:


Then you should post links to prove MOST Indians get using corruption, naming the border agents involved or at least linking to reliable sites that have evidence that'd stand up in court.

I know there have been some dodgy visa agents, but none of the people involved in any fraud or corruption concerning Indians were UK border agents.

Unless you can show differently.