Gypsies in villages?

Yes, there are good and bad in every group, but i still think its best to be in a village with few gyspies.

Stay away from Gypsies, all my Bulgarian friends don't like them and stay away from them, there must me a good reason for that.

Hi Kris, I can understand your comment, but could be a case of live and let live?
A Bulgarian man with little money or belongings looks down on the gypsy as a 2nd rate person I witnessed this only last week I can understand there is a stigma attached to gypsies same here in UK & Ireland. I stayed in a plush 4 star hotel in Lukovit last week, I walked out the plush surroundings that a western person would relate to, and wandered through a local area, I saw gypsies working, kids playing they looked no different to an English man working while his kids played nearby, I can appreciate people being wary or distrusting of a gypsy, just like you would of a stranger?
Cheers mate, hope you are well.
Regards Steve.

Man I've heard so many stories of gypsies stealing form old people, going into their houses at night and robbing them and so on. Obviously in all races of people there are good and bad ppl but like I said if I were you I would stay away and not even be friendly cuz u never know when they'll decide to come for an uninvited visit. Just my opinion (and any Bulgarian I've ever talk to).

Racism is also called "stupidity", or "crowd mentality".
I've also seen it referred to as "Idiotic crap".

Bigotry is usually the result of mindless, no, moronic stereotypes created by the stupid, accepted and spewed out by the uneducated and/or pathetic.

Other than those points, I fully accept the stupid racism and mindless bigotry to be valid.

Kris0x0 wrote:

Man I've heard so many stories of gypsies stealing form old people, going into their houses at night and robbing them and so on.

So, how many of those stories are true, and how many are lies?
Yes, there are loads of stories, but hardly any can be backed up with anything as minor as a fact.
Now try the same stories, but look for local people committing the mentioned crimes.
You'll find plenty, but racism has to avoid mentioning them because the idiot ends of politics can't use the truth.

Of course there are some bad gypsies, but there are bad people in all sections of society.

I'm being as subtle as I can here, but I must make my objections to the stupidity of bigotry very clear
RACISM IS FOR BLOODY IDIOTS.

Opinions are lovely, but nasty and unfounded stereotypes are always bad news.

What can you allow :
Jews are bad because some in Israel are considered bad by some.
Muslims are bad because some consider than all to be terrorists
Gypsies break into your house at night.
Gays have AIDS
Black men rape white women

and so on.

Where is bigotry every reasonable, or even founded in truth?
It's always lies and always designed to create hate to a given group, and only ever applies to a very small section of that group, if it fit any of them at all.

Gypsies have a lousy rep in England but, when you meet a bunch of them, they turn out to be people just like anyone else.
The first bunch I met to talk to were at a diversity meeting, and turned out to have a great sense of humour. Pity the hedgehog pate wasn't really hedgehog, I would have loved to try it, but they were pulling my leg.
The next big bunch were at a karaoke at a great Chinese restaurant in Doncaster - brilliant lot, just interested in having a good time, and a great night was had by all, without the slightest sign of anything less than normal for any group of people.
People commonly don't understand their lifestyle, that produces daft stories, leading to mistrust, followed by hate.

Sometimes you fail to realise how deep these stories go.
There I am, listening to a speech from a holocaust survivor (Excellent speech), then a "poof" got up to make his points about gay people.
I have to be entirely honest, I was expecting a load of old rubbish but it turned out to be absolute genius.
He didn't make a speech as such, just challenged the audience to consider their own thoughts and feelings.
It made me consider everything I'd ever been told about "poofs", realising I was totally wrong and there are no "poofs", just people with a different take on life.

I was brought up in a rough area where 'blackies' were talked about in ways that were bloody auful, but when all the people around you tell you the same thing, you grow up assuming it's true. This first started to change for me when I found the pleasures of Chinese take aways.
The locals would go in, abuse the staff, make up stories about them using cat meat, but ordered their food anyway, usually in a very abusive manner.
I saw the look on the woman's face, always sad - something I dislike to see.
When alone on my side of the counter one evening, I asked her how to say "thank you" in her language, and used it when I got my food - the first time I'd ever seen her smile.

Bigotry never produces a smile, but one kind word can light up a sad face.

I've ranted on enough - be excellent to each other.

Everywhere in the world, there are good people and bad people,
in Bulgaria they steal to eat most of the time, but in our countries it's for easy money or drugs and God knows

HI, I live in a village with a very high percentage of Gypsies. As with every place we have one family who happen to be Gypsy who are a problem and most of that is opportunist crime. We mix with everyone but as yet are careful who we invite into our home as we are aware that we appear to be wealthy and others aren't. We support their events, are happy to treat their kids when they come knocking at the gate to sing and dance at Easter and we use their cafe when our regular shop/cafe is closed. We sometimes get strange looks but they are always pleasant and appreciate my attempts to speak Bulgarian. We have no problem with them and they have none with us. Live alongside each other in harmony I say and so far it has worked.

I will be moving to Bulgaria later this year, I have owned my small house in a remote village since 2009, but only set foot inside it twice! Once was for a few minutes when I bought it in 2009 and the next time was for a brief check to make sure it was o.k in 2012 again about 10 minutes.  I was warned that it may be occupied by Gypsies after so long but it was all safe just as I had left it. I do however prefer to think my own thoughts and draw my own conclusions and have always been one to never run with the crowd! Thus stories are just tales, and reputations can be created by hearsay as suggested by some, to breed hatred and discord,  that for me is one thing I will not tolerate!

I treat others as I expect to be treated and Gypsies or Romany's as they are  labelled, to me are no different to anyone else. We can all choose to be dishonest or violent and nasty, but that is what it is, that being a choice. I have always found such people still respond positively to kindness and understanding! One even acted as a good Samaritan in the past and saved me a great deal of hassle. 

I will hopefully be taking up a position in an organisation whose aim it is, to unite in a fusion, people's who normally live a fractured  life. Helping to eradicate the stigma and bigotry which causes so much pain in this world where peace is so scarce now, through understanding and unconditional love, blind to creed and colour but seeing humans. Since we as a species are basically all the same and in a perfect world would be one big family, known as the brotherhood of mankind!

Be nice to each other, it's so much more productive than being nasty! :-)

We live in a village with both gypies and Bulgarians. We love it here and get on with both equally. They come around for a meal or bbq now and then and they buy you beers down the cafe. They are all equal and lovely.

Be nice to each other, it's so much more productive than being nasty! :-)

Yer, baby.
bang on the button with that one.

Hi
So are there area's or villages that are predominantly with gypsies, what about rural locations??

Thanks
jim

Most rural areas are mixed ethnicities... similar to the cities, there tend to be neighborhoods/ghettos with a higher Bulgarian, Roma, or Turkish population. There are some villages that are mostly Roma or mostly Turkish, with very few ethnic Bulgarians. There are also villages with mostly Pomak population. Other villages are mostly ethnic Bulgarian with a smaller minority population.

I have no issues with Roma in our village. I am polite, they are polite. Trusting them is a diffo thing. A mate of ours took two years to discover she was the local taxi service.  I certainly would not allow them into the garden.  Even if they are not robbing toerags they may inadvertently tell a friend something.

Not trustworthy, same as many expats really. Old boy in our village was tortured and burned alive. He had boasted in magazin whilst drunk he had hundreds of Leva hidden in his house...a death sentence!

There is nothingbwrong with gypsies, they are very friendly and hardworking, just been given a bad name

Hello! As far as i know, there are a lot of gypsies in the most western parts of Ukraine and the feedback from locals is not the best about them

2 years...taxi service ???? Please explain

I am from a Roma family in UK.  There are may types of Gypsies and we discriminate among each other also. When i was young i was taught that God did not believe in the ownership of possessions.  And that all things were for all peoples. I was taught that it is a Gypsies job to steal.  It is a way to make all people humble. This is not a popular way to behave and i no longer think this way....  However, in a "tolerant" society we must be mindful of other cultures and be accepting of diversity.  It is the way our politicians want us to be in this global society.

So in the interests of a diverse and tolerant society, suck it up buttercup.

Hey buttercup interesting little post, although glad you changed the stealing it's not going to get you far stood in a court house when you tell the Judge it was gods way that you stole, but yeah I can respect people and speak to them like I would like to be spoken, all fair and correct. Steve.

Interesting discussions ....

My personal experience with Gypsies in Bulgaria shows that they come from different kins .... not sure whether this is the correct word. Some of them call themselves Roma, and other do not use this. As far as I know Roma gypsies are just one of the streams.

On the other hand there's also professional separation - some kins are hardworking and make their living by practicing different crafts, e.g. in the past some were producing or welding frying pans, casserols, knives etc .... In Bulgaria those Gypsi kins are the "Demirdjii" and "Yerlii". Generally they are hard working and honest.

Other Gypsi kins are the "Rudari" and "Kardarashi". The last are practicing stealing, especially by young gypsy girls. Older women are trying to make money by predicting the future...... Those are the kins that came from Romania and from Northern Greece.

What is most important with gypsies i first the kin they come from, and second where they grew up. If the kin is o.k. and has taught the kid to work in order to make a living, then you can trust such a person. If the kin has taught the kid to steal, then that is what he/she is going to do.

Sometimes, if a gypsy family grew separately from their kin, in a regular environment, with school for the kids and work for the parents, then they accent this line of behaviou and will work hard, be reliable and not steal.

So it looks like that the general problem is with the social environment in some of the gypsy kins. Large gypsy communities also pose some risk.

I knew that private property was not respected in gypsy communities, but for the first time I see that God was associated with the stealing business .... Good to know that not everyone thinks that way.