The Ecuadorian way - customer service

I think this is better moved to a new thread ...

Loving Ecuador wrote:

Bueno Gringo: Your attitude is great, you will do just fine if you really follow your aspiration to blend with the locals embracing their culture. Just as a recommendation, please avoid getting upset when you realize that Ecuador is not US. Things work, but handled in different manners.. especially timing! please be patience because time taken the Ecuadorian way usually means time to oneself and family, not for customers. Dont expect bend over backward customer service and certainly dont get mad when you dont get it! It is at the very root of the well known Ecuadorian kindness. They better have less but enjoy more time with family.


defuera wrote:

Can you explain this a bit more? I don't know that I understand how providing timely customer service takes away from family time. Ecuadoreans work longer work weeks then gringos.

I mean, if one can solve clients problems quickly and effectively, one will have more time and energy for ones private life, no?


Loving Ecuador wrote:

Hi defuera, I understand the confusion and absolutely agree about the need to problem solve clients needs. That is what makes service better and capitalism the best system to produce the best customer service standards in advanced money oriented countries. However, here things are a bit different. Not better, not worse, just different.
It is true Ecuadorians work often harder than gringoes, yet following your line of thought, think an urgent situation in which a client requires extended service beyond regular working hours. An Ecuadorian will certainly prioritize time off (for onself and family) over client needs. He/she will likely drop everything at work until the next ocassion, no matter how critical the client problem is.
Furthermore, think a critical client request versus a critical family request both originated during working hours...duty goes to the family. No valid claims to proceed otherwise.


I have no argument on putting family or personal emergencies ahead of work, that is the norm in every decent part of the world. But emergencies are not everyday events. And I don't really associate the idea of quality customer service with capitalism, for me that is a different subject. (And I doubt that any hardcore libertarian capitalists would voluntarily pick socialistic Ecuador as a place to live.)

Entonces, under normal, everyday conditions, (and I come from a client service background) it seems to me that it is harder and more time consuming to provide poor service then it is to provide quality service. So if the goal of people is to take it easy, what is about the culture that causes people to have to work longer and harder for (at best) the same result?

I ask because I want to understand, not to criticize.

In the US when working time is over, everybody pack his things and go home, they don't stay an extra second unless they already know they gonna be paid extra time.

Here in Ecuador people work without real schedule, they have to work all they time they're asked for and they don't get pay extra for that.

And about bad service, it happens because the employers or the owners doesn't want to spend time and money in training and because due the bad salaries and long time  schedules employees don't care about custom service.

Vinny, customer service in general is very poor in Ecuador. For some reason which I cannot offer possible explanations they don't seem to enjoy or care for enhancing a customers experience. Oddly, this is not the situation in Colombia or Peru and Colombian employees do an excellent job in Ecuadorian businesses.

It would appear that an Ecuadorian could easily differentiate their business by training and incentivizing employees. The question is would Ecuadorians pay more for the enhanced service level?

Hello,

You're right when Colombians came here many people got mad because they're best sellers than Ecuadorians and many stores and business hired them instead Ecuadorians.

Anyway, I think, at least in Quito and Guayaquil, customer service is getting better, mostly on big companies and public services but still a long way to go.

About your question I don't have a clear reply, many Ecuadorians who have live or visit abroad would look for better service for sure but many others are used to bad service and don't care.

Vinny

I missed the beginning of this thread, so maybe I am missing the context of the service (ie, lack of help, attitude, repairs, returns, etc.). I have noticed here that you need to make sure that the thing you buy works, or is appropriate to your needs before you walk out of the store. Trying to return a product can be difficult because the idea of a guarantee is not completely embraced (depending on the store). The smaller the store, the more this seems to be a problem.

In regard to repairs, it can sometimes take longer than you are used to. But, that is true of almost everything in Ecuador. I think that is cultural and probably not going to change.

Joe, the service comments were related primarily to customer service. You are correct that return policies are limited and generally non existent. This is especially a problem in Ecuador as the quality of most products sold is poor due to extreme price sensitivity.  Prior to leaving a store you have to be confident the product works and will do the task required. (For this reason we bring many products from the USA)

Our experience is while several trades do excellent work, many do not. Finding a talented plumber, painter or electrician can be a challenge. Also, while a trade may repair one item they frequently damage something else.