Social Visa Sponsor

Yearoff · 2012-07-16 17:23:29

I am taking a year off and thus need to apply for a 6 month social visa (twice).

I have friends who live in Bali but they hold Java ID, and I do not know any Bali KTP holder.

I will apply for the Social Visa in Singapore. is a Bali KTP holder a must? Anyone can advise as the Singapore embassy page says Indonesia ID while a local agent in Bali said it had to be a Bali KTP

Many thanks

Aurélie · 2012-07-17 07:50:18

Hello Yearoff.

Welcome to Expat Blog!

You can read this article on Indonesia Visa Info. It may help. smile

Thank you,
Aurélie

Yearoff · 2012-07-17 07:55:52

Thanks Aurélia but this does not state whether a sponsor has to be from Bali.

I have tried calling the Indonesian embassy in Singapore too but no response via phone or email.

Thanks

JEREMIE DUCROT · 2012-07-17 10:58:48

Hi yearoff,
just ask for social visa (6 months) and renew it for once.
to obtain visa : ask your friends to make a sponsor letter dealing with why you are coming to bali, the place you are gonna stay, your bank account showing the money at your disposal for your trip, your valid passeport (valid one year after the end of your trip).
Send all documents to indonesian Embassy in your country. They have to answer you.
If they don't agree, they will ask for several more documents and you will obtain direct phone number and contacts in Embassy.
Kind regards.

maigao · 2012-07-21 03:40:08

If you are going to Bali , yes your sponsor has to be in Bali. There are many agents in Bali advertising in the papers there who will give you a sponsor letter. You may have to go to Bali on a 30 day visa on arrival and find a sponsor/agent then go back to Singapore(I understand you live there). In singapore an agent will cost you about S$200 or do it yourself and you have to wait a day longer. so can be more practical to use an agent. i can recommend one in Singapore if you need . Agents in singapore your passport of course, a sponsor letter, copy of sponsors KTP, 1 passport photo, the appropriate application form filled out by you and your sponsor, ticket-IN to Bali: usually no need for exit ticket (but you may need a Bali exit ticket when you check in at Singapore airport to go, depends on carrier.Definately no need for bank statements).Messy but after you do it the first time it comes easy:)

TheWardrobe · 2012-07-22 13:37:57

Hi!

I just posted a new subject with same questions in spanish. We are in a similar situation as you, Yaeroff. We're a couple who want to live Bali for 6 months to 1 year and can work remotely during that time there. Jeremie, maybe you know the answer to this doubt too... Does the person who sponsor us have to be a direct friend? We have a few friends in Spain who have good firends to sponsor us but don't know if that's enough or do they have to know us really well,too.

By the way, Yearoff, whne are you going over to Bali? We'll be there end of October.Hope to see you around!

Thanks for your help in advance!

Laura and Xavier

Yearoff · 2012-07-22 13:49:14

Hi all.

Thanks for the responses and I have actually been in contact with the indonesia embassy too.

The sponsor definitely needs to hold a Bali KTP, so I have a friends friend helping me on that one. Agencies will help provide a sponsor as I found out for a fee, but for me it's the credibility of that person which is important.

I will get the visa processed in Singapore via an agent and use the agents in Bali to process the monthly renewals. It's not at all difficult but the agent offers hassle free at a small cost.

Thanks again for all your help

Indoboundchick · 2012-07-24 02:57:10

hi there i had no trouble at all but i did have help from a place in ubud called highway immigration look them up on the net and maybe call them they are very helpful... good luck...

JEREMIE DUCROT · 2012-07-24 10:34:39

Dear Wardrobe,
your sponsor don't need to be your friend.
What they call sponsor is someone who can testify of your situation. It can be a firm, an association or anyone else who can testify of your income, the place you stay...
There are also special agent who get busy with your sponsor, but I am not confident.
Better if your sponsor is a firm, coz they hold KTP, it's like a registration number for companies and Embassy is much diligent working with KTP firm to give sponsor.
On my side, I had a friend working in restaurant in Bali. I introduced myself to restaurant and they employed me.
Restaurant send all document to Immigration office (Resume, my bank account, the firm contract, the place i will live in Bali, my salary, my position....), they added to this document the nama of my manager in restaurant, their KTP number, and I receive Work permit 6 days after.
I don't know what is your job, but if you want to stay 6 months or 1 year, you perhaps can make touristic visa and renew it as much as necessary.
While touristic visa period, you might find a sponsor.
Indonesia is easy when you can directly meet people. Offer your skill, they might propose you sponsor.

Best regards.Stay courageous.

JEREMIE DUCROT · 2012-07-24 10:39:01

your spanish friends have to introduce you to their indonesian friens. It certainly enough to get all needed papaers to work in Indo.
Don't forget : sponsor has to pay 1200.00 US Dollas administrative fee to Immigration office to get your work permit. So, propose your indo friends to give the money back.

Cheers.Jeremie.

TheWardrobe · 2012-07-24 17:35:53

Thanks for the answers smile
We don't need a work permit to start of, we work online with clients from Spain. We have a design studio. So all we need is the sponsor. One more doubt...the embassy told us that we can go with tourist visa and then ask the landlord of the house we rent to sponsor us but that means we have to leave Indonesia, go to syngapore for example , while they do the papers. And this means money.(tickets to syngapore, lodgement,etc) is there any way we can do this without having to leave Indonesia? do you know?

We are looking for sponsors directly form here so we don't have to go through all this as we have saved money to be there 1 year plus what we earn online. Thats why the social visa is perfect for us. We don't have to work in Bali and we can stay there for 1 year.We really need the sponsor.

Hopefully things will work out! I'm optimistic.

By the way, I did'n sign my name last time.

Thanks for everything

Laura

JEREMIE DUCROT · 2012-07-24 17:52:50

Dear Laura,
you have no way else.
Going to Singapore is compulsory.
It's simple. Ask your paper when you are within the period of touristic visa.
When it's almost done, go to singapore for 1 or 2 days.
you can find plane ticket for 300.00 dollars.
I send you on mail box the name of tour operator where you can find this prices.
If you don't want to leave indonesia, it means you have to get your sponsor, send it to immigration office and wait for their answer before going to Indo.

bye.

Ubudian · 2013-01-29 00:36:13

Admittedly late with a reply to this discussion, and sorry for that, I am wondering why anyone who is coming to stay in Indonesia for a year thinks they need to apply for a susbud (sosial budaya visa)? Since mid 2006 the old sosbud (411 visa) and 60 day visit visa both became the new 211 visa and both are extendable here in country for up to four times, each time being good for 30 days thus allowing for a full 180 day stay before needing to make a visa run and renew the visa.

This is a much easier approach in that there is no need for an Indonesian sponsor when first applying for the 60 day visit visa. During the course of extending the 60 day visa a sponsor will be required, but if one uses a licensed visa agent to handle the extensions for them, the agent acts as the legal sponsor.

In other words, there is no need to worry about having local friends with the right KTP to act as your sponsor.

Eko ChannelOne · 2013-01-29 06:52:11

Hi All,

The sponsor letter or also known as Invitation letter is designed for a person who would like to come and stay in Bali for 6 months long.

The sponsor must be holding Bali ID card, use to be ok for the sponsor not having Bali ID card added with temporary Bali ID named: KIPEM, but now Immigration will reject it.

The sponsor can be emailed to you, so you do not need to come to Bali under VoA and then fly out again to Singapore to get the visa from Indonesian Embassy there, you can apply a Social Visa using emailed sponsor letter.

In term of extending this visa, PLEASE NOTE, the extension request will be rejected by the immigration office if at the time the extension made your current visa is less than 10 days, so please check your visa validity.

@TheWardrobe, you may apply the visa to the Indonesian Embassy in Madrid or any embassy close to where you are residing now.

Following here is the requirements in applying Social Visa:

1. Sponsor Letter (Indonesian National) + Bali ID.
2. Copy of ID card of the sponsor.
3. Photograph 4 x 6 cm, color, any background will do.

Note: The sponsorship can be made and or provided by one of your Indonesian Friend or Visa agent.

Cheers,

Eko ChannelOne

Ubudian · 2013-01-29 10:46:15

Hi Eko,

Surely as you must know, B211 visas issued these days are extendable in Bali at either of the three immigration offices and that includes 60 day tourist visas. As with a sosbud visa, a sponsor is required for the extensions but if the applicant uses a licensed visa agent, such as yourself, the agent will generally act as the sponsor.

The only problem is that occasionally an Indonesian Embassy or Consulate office will issue a B211 visa that includes the wording “non extendable” on the visa, but that is rare these days and the visa applicant can avoid that risk by stating on their visa application that they are specifically looking for a B211 extendable visa.

I simply can’t imagine that your own office hasn’t handled extensions of 60 day B211 tourist visas.

The point I’m trying to make is that it isn’t necessary for a foreigner to apply for a sosbud visa when their intention is to stay in Indonesia for up to 6 months. The sosbud visa is virtually no different than the 60 day tourist visa…both being a 60 day visa and both being extendable up to four times, each time being good for 30 days. So, why bother with a sosbud visa at all when it requires Indonesian sponsorship at the time of the initial visa application?

vina.varadilla · 2013-02-13 03:10:55

if Im not mistaken they had to have id card stated that they live in bali. if you dont have any friends that permanently living here, normally the visa agents will help you find one. I know some balinese colleagues here if you need a sponsor, I can try to talk to them.

Cheers!

Ubudian · 2013-02-13 06:18:48

Vina, a good visa agent will tell the foreigner that they don't need a sosbud visa these days. A sosbud visa is totally unnecessary for the vast majority of foreigners who would like to be able to stay in Indonesia for up to 180 days.

Manu84 · 2013-02-19 19:21:30

KTP no need to be owned by a Balinese.
All Balinese are Indonesian.
KTP must be owned by an Indonesian.

So much confusion around.
Please contact me for trusty informations

info[at]manuelcarulli.com

Last edited by Manu84 (2013-02-19 19:22:00)

Ubudian · 2013-02-20 00:12:26

“KTP no need to be owned by a Balinese.”

That’s not what Vina said, but indeed, all Balinese are Indonesian. What Vina
wrote was. “if I’m not mistaken they had to have id card stated that they (the sponsor) live in bali” and she is absolutely correct.

The sponsor’s KTP has to be a Bali issued KTP if the visa renewal is being done at any of the three immigration offices in Bali. Moreover, any Indonesian living on Bali, regardless if they are Balinese or not, must have a KTP issued from Bali.

“So much confusion around.” Indeed there is and it’s surprising how much of that confusion comes from those who present themselves as visa consultants. ;<)

Manu84 · 2013-02-21 08:56:16

Ubidian:

Hallo,
You're right, I was too quick to respond and my english is not perfect.
I beg your pardon.

"If I'm not mistaken they had to have id card Stated That they (the sponsor) live in bali" and she is absolutely correct.

See?
They are all personal opinions.
Who is right?

How do you think if someone starts a sentence with "if im not mistaken" ?
Maybe there are people who have neither the time nor the inclination to guess the right answer.
And the answer is not visa agencies or the kantor immigrasi (especially in ngurah rai!)

That's' cause I'm here! smile

Semoga sukses

Last edited by Manu84 (2013-02-21 08:56:57)

Ubudian · 2013-02-21 09:41:19

“How do you think if someone starts a sentence with "if im not mistaken" ?”

IMHO, and given my own vast experience with imigrasi on Bali, it’s not a bad idea to start off a sentence with “if I’m not mistaken” given how often things change with immigration as well as how answers and methods can vary with each of the three imigrasi offices here on Bali.

But, knowing that you’re here, I’ll sleep better tonight! cool

Cheers!

teresahug · 2013-04-14 13:12:19

Hi Ubudian,
My husband and I are planning on moving to bali at the end of the year, but are a little confused about the visa process, and you seem to be very well informed. My husband will be working back in Oz, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off roster so will be coming in and out on a tourist visa. Just wondering where that leaves me and the kids. I am worried about making mistake (such as you mentioned with the B211 extendable and non extendable visa)early on in the visa process, any info you have would be greatly appreciated.

cheers

Ubudian · 2013-04-15 04:41:57

Let’s first talk about your husband. You say he plans to come in and out of Bali approximately every 2 weeks. That would amount to 26 entries into Indonesia per year and if you consider the $25 VOA fee per entry, that would come to $650 per year paying for those visas. For him it might be more useful to get a multiple entry business visa (MBV) which is initially good for 60 days and then renewable here in Bali for up to four times, each time being good for another 30 days…total 180 days (or roughly ½ year). On that visa he can come and go as often as he likes, the only restriction being that he cannot exceed 60 days here on each visit, but from what you say, that won’t be an issue.

It’s been a while since I checked, but I believe the multiple entry business visa costs $100, thus a total of $200 covering a year (360 days) as opposed to $650 by going the VOA route.

Another possible approach for you husband would be residency KITAS visa with a multiple entry/exit permit. And for you and your children, a residency KITAS (without the multiple entry/exit permit) would make the best sense once you are here in Bali.

KITAS (residency) visas require a local sponsor…typically this is an employer or an Indonesian spouse, but a licensed visa agent can also act as your sponsor. In this regard I would highly recommend PT Bali Ide http://www.bali-expat-business.com/

They have been around longer than any other visa agent, and I’ve personally used them for many years before finally getting permanent resident status. They might cost a little more than other “johnny come lately” agents, but as with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

You need to be here in Indonesia to apply for a KITAS visa, so for your first entry (when you move here) get a 60 day tourist visa (in OZ of course), which is also renewable here in Bali for up to four times…each time being good for an additional 30 days. You and each of your children will each require this visa…but that’ll get you through your fist 180 days here.

I hope this has helped.

Cheers, and best of luck with your move to Bali!

Peter Pflaum · 2013-05-21 04:26:28

I am an elderly (77) American living on a pension. I am looking for a place to stay long term and call home. I have been renting by the month and have paid in advance no more than a $1,000 each month.

I have been living in a bungalow (Villa) next to the ocean in Amed Bali Indonesia which is very good and I like it, but after 6 months I have to leave on Aug 22 to Thailand because of impossible immigration rules and procedures in Indonesia.

But I maybe able to get a social six months visa:
With Bobby's help and help from his agent in Singapore I may get a six month social visa. The tour of Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia which was to look for alternatives now may become a nice tourist trip around SE Asia from August 22 to September 22. I can leave my big bag in Bali and travel light.

I get a lower rate because I become a resident. I like bungalows or villas on the beach, a pool is nice, E-mail me at wiredbrain[at]gmail.com

I am long term resident so I pay by the month - so the first month would be from Sept 19th and 30 days would be until Oct 18th - I will pay in advance or put down a deposit. I am also trying to find the bus to Sihanoukville Cambodia Sept 19th 2013 from SGN Saigon or south Vietnam since there is no airplane.

I should state that I don't feel like climbing stairs. I am looking for a large room 30ｲ meters with a nice balcony, a Superior or Deluxe AC Bungalow is desirable. I can hope to have a magnificent sea view, at least one good size-bed, Air Conditioning, hot & cold water shower, WiFi, minibar or fridge, a backup generator, quiet and peaceful, with a helpful and friendly staff; like all that I have now in Bali for a little under $1,000.

So what is the price for Sept 19 to Oct 18 ?

I will be in Thailand on Aug 22 with a hotel until the 27th of August, the Rambuttri Village Plaza and I am looking for a place from the 27th of August until Sept 4, two weeks in Thailand.

I go to Vietnam Sept 4th SGN and have a hotel there until the 9th at the Signature Saigon Hotel . I am looking for a place to stay, long term. Two weeks in Vietnam.
The Island of Phu Quoc Island Hotels, Discount Hotels in Phuquoc Vietnam: Phu Quoc Resort looks nice, and cheap.

I have a small pension and want to find a nice place I can afford to live. Then on to Cambodia September 14th, Sihanoukville, Cambodia; two weeks in Cambodia
then to Singapore for the visa and finally return to Bali on September 22nd.

I left the country (USA) Jan 15 2013 for Bali, I am 77, recently divorced, a retired professor. I have been 30 years in New Smyrna Beach FL with my now X-wife in a $500,000 house I paid for thus have a settlement. I have good character: a professor at leading universities with degrees from the University of Chicago (BA), Harvard (Ed M), FSU (PhD). I have been a high level federal employee with security clearances.

Dr. Peter E. Pflaum, GlobalVillages
wiredbrain[at]gmail.com
Villas Amed (Bobby's Villas) bobbyartana[at]yahoo.com
Bali Jl. Raya Amed, Karangasem, 80361 Indonesia
in Amed Beach Jemeluk

Peter Pflaum · 2013-05-21 04:28:24

A social six months visa:

With Bobby's help and help from his agent in Singapore I can maybe get a six month social visa for about $1000 including three flights Bali to Singapore, and back and out again you have to have a ticket out to come in.

The tour of Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia which was a look for alternatives may becomes an interesting tourist trip. I got a one month extension with three trips to the immigration office
1. one to get papers and file and get your picture taken and finger prints
2. two to pay $25
3. three to get stamp and passport back.
I got a month until June 21, then Gede does it again for July 21, and again until August 21 about $30 a trip plus the fee:
and I go to Bangkok, and Vietnam.

Ubudian · 2013-05-21 15:21:54

Peter, why don’t you simply get a 5 year retirement visa here in Indonesia and call it quits with visa runs every 6 months?

It’s really simple to get the 5 year retirement visa, but you’ll need a visa agent to act as your sponsor unless of course you’ve found a nice Amed gal to marry you!

Cheers, and enjoy your retirement.

bojog26 · Yesterday 16:45:17

For Social Visa sponsor KTP is enough. Business visas need a PT.

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