Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

#1 14 February 2012 07:08:14

saharadesert
saharadesert
London

Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Does anyone know what Sharbatly Village compound is like i Jeddah ?
I have Googled and read on one forum that it dates back to the 80s ?
Is this true ?
Is it well-kept and modern or old and worn down ?

#2 14 February 2012 09:40:55

Alliecat
Alliecat
Riyadh

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Here's what I grabbed from off-line.  They sure make it sound GOOD!  Now I want to move there, too :lol:

Sharbatly village on Prince Majed Street, is almost a small town, only ten minutes away from Saudia Airport and fifthteen minutes away from the International Airport, having 950 villas ranging from 1 to 6 bedroom, all with private walled gardens, spread over half a million square meters.

Properties are available unfurnished or furnished with different packages to suit all budgets. The newly- built Community Centre and the Health Club provides an internet corner, aerobics studio, gymnasium, community lounge, conference room, extensive library multi-purpose room and travel agent. Two additional recreation centre offer indoor and outdoor activities including; 2 glass backed air conditioned squash courts, snooker and pool club, 2 adults and children swimming pools, 3 toddler’s playgrounds, 6 tennis courts, 2 basket ball / volley ball / hockey courts, 2 football pitches, skating area, mini golf and practice nets and a games room with table tennis, television, youth club, snooker and baby foot.

Activities, language classes and sporting events are organized for residents. Other facilities include a full a la carte restaurant with home delivery service, supermarket, newsagents, laundry and dry cleaning service, hair salon, medical clinic, dental clinic, cable television, video centre, shopping, beach and school buses, car maintenance and valet services. Maintenance, security, fire station switchboard and limousine service are all 24 hours. There is professional staff for entertainment – organizing children’s / adult events / ladies lunch – arts & crafts afternoons.

Management motto is aimed to create a happy relaxed and comfortable environment and atmosphere to give residents an enjoyable stall all year round. The overriding advantage of Sharbatly Village is the space – once around the village constitutes a long jog or bike ride – and the privacy afforded by a private, walled garden surrounding each and every 1-story villa.

Contact: Sales Department. Tel: 691 0828 ext:4622 or 4604 Fax: 639 3871 & or 682 0001 ext: 4607 email: info[at]sharbatlyvillage.com

http://www.sbtd.co.uk/images/Sharbatly.jpg

#5 17 February 2012 14:21:17

simplysk
simplysk
Jeddah

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Sharbatly is very well kept. Swimming pools, houses and roads are all well maintained. The staff is relatively much nicer than other compounds. There are sheesha cafes, bowling arena and billiards. Mostly filipino females are employed with some egyptian and pakistani staff as guards and receptionists.

Mostly there are Americans, French and German people with equal number of Saudi residents and also Lebanese but all are tend to live very liberally with no strict dress code, neither on streets nor by the pool.

Very delicious restaurants inside as well.

They are usually always booked full, People enlist their names sometimes 6 month prior before and still find it hard to get a vacacny. It is just a luck if you get it in time.

Regards :)

Last edited by simplysk (17 February 2012 14:28:03)

#7 17 February 2012 22:10:38

simplysk
simplysk
Jeddah

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Saharadesert,

many times in Sharbatly. All my life I lived in Jeddah :).

but at the moment am in Riyadh.

Last edited by simplysk (17 February 2012 22:23:49)

#10 19 February 2012 22:47:32

Alon Injed

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Sharbatley is one of the best for the money but it usually has a long waiting list.  They have built many new units in the last few years and added new gymn, clubhouse, pool.  The old pool area is one of the best with squash courts, bowling etc.  I waited 2 years to get in there but could not.   I have lived in Jeddah for 3 years and am familiar with many of the compounds.  Feel free to ask me any questions.

#11 20 February 2012 10:53:47

fyounus

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Hi Alon Injed
Can you please provide me some feedback on Arabian Homes such as availability, facilities? Also are there any more British compounds in Jeddah?

Thanks
fyounus











Alon Injed wrote:

Sharbatley is one of the best for the money but it usually has a long waiting list.  They have built many new units in the last few years and added new gymn, clubhouse, pool.  The old pool area is one of the best with squash courts, bowling etc.  I waited 2 years to get in there but could not.   I have lived in Jeddah for 3 years and am familiar with many of the compounds.  Feel free to ask me any questions.

#12 20 February 2012 13:58:30

Alon Injed

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

There are many compounds in Jeddah some a little more Western than the other but all have some degree of mixture East and West.
I do not know of strictly British places.

Arabian Homes has many compounds Sierra  is best and Andalus seems to be well liked both are close to each other. They also have a few others with fewer amenities.  Both have ridiculous waiting lists.  Al Basentine is also very good and next to the British School again long  waiting list.  As I have adviced in the past here it is not what you want it is what is available if any.  Lotus IV is also acceptable good facilities although the management is somewhat arrogant but any port in a storm.  I know of at least two families that have left for that reason after the one year contract is up others have been there for 10 years.  There is a small publication Jeddah Today which lists all or most of the compounds.   Unfortunatly you can only get it here.  Many places give them away but you can also buy at one of the Jarrir Bookstore.  There are some very nice compounds but they do not have machine guns or soldiers so they do not rent to Westeners at least British and American passport holders.  The budget is also important as a 2 br 1.5 bath can go from 60,000 SAR to 120,000 SAR depending on the compound.


fyounus wrote:

Hi Alon Injed
Can you please provide me some feedback on Arabian Homes such as availability, facilities? Also are there any more British compounds in Jeddah?

Thanks
fyounus











Alon Injed wrote:

Sharbatley is one of the best for the money but it usually has a long waiting list.  They have built many new units in the last few years and added new gymn, clubhouse, pool.  The old pool area is one of the best with squash courts, bowling etc.  I waited 2 years to get in there but could not.   I have lived in Jeddah for 3 years and am familiar with many of the compounds.  Feel free to ask me any questions.

#13 21 February 2012 17:14:07

hyacinth
hyacinth
Dubai

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

I also know that most of the tenants there are Lebanese. I also do not like the fact it is opposite to men's prison and far away from everything.

#14 22 February 2012 00:26:38

simplysk
simplysk
Jeddah

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

hyacinth wrote:

I also know that most of the tenants there are Lebanese. I also do not like the fact it is opposite to men's prison and far away from everything.

Hello Hyacinth,
Are you new in town?
There are many Lebanese there as well as Saudis.

#15 22 February 2012 04:02:15

Alliecat
Alliecat
Riyadh

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

hyacinth wrote:

I also know that most of the tenants there are Lebanese. I also do not like the fact it is opposite to men's prison and far away from everything.

So, in other words, it is NOT considered a 'western' compound??

#16 22 February 2012 07:22:50

Alon Injed

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Dear all if you do not want to live in a compound with Lebanese then forget about compounds.   Sherbatley has a large number of Lebanese as does every other compound in Jeddah.  A lot of these Lebanese hold passports from Western Countries.
I have friends from USA, Colombia, Spain, Germany, Lebanon, Syria and Cuba presently living at Shebartley.   I have friends from USA, Lebanon, England, Korea, Colombia, Agentina, France and Spain living in Sierra/Andalus (Arabian Homes).   I have friends from Greece, England, Lebanon, Filipines, Jordan, Syria, Kazistan, France and Indonesia living at Lotus IV.    Most of the Lebanese, Syrians and Jordanians friends I have come from  the USA or Europe.  If you want a sinitized environment best to stay away from Saudi Arabia.   This is just like America a little melting pot from everywhere. 
As far as the mens prison is concerned I saw a large wall with what looked like an army barracks but did not realize it was a prison.  Sherbbatley is surrounded by large walls with soldiers and machine guns protecting the perimeter.  I do not think it is worth worrying about, but that is a matter of personal preference.

#17 22 February 2012 07:57:05

ozzinksa
ozzinksa
Cape Town

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Ok so I am an Australian living in Sharbatly at the moment so let me know wat questions you have

Simplsky - Saudis are not allowed in any compounds unless they dont declare they are saudis and hold nationality of other countries.

All compounds in Jeddah have an arab community comprised of egyptians, syrians and lebanese predominantly. Dont expect to be on any compound that is strictly western.

I visited Arabian homes and various other ones. They are all more of less the same.

Sharbatly houses are mostly prefabricated so the arent very sound proof which matters coz the compound is almost directly under the flight path for Jeddah airport which is bearable except during umrah and hajj seasons where the noise is constant

the mens prison doesnt look like a prison its more like barracks and the compound is well guarded so you dont need to worry about that

the pools and facilities are nice COMPARATIVELY when compared to other compounds

cleanliness is good enough but the one thing is that they dont do pest control and you can see that it is needed.

It is located in the north of Jeddah so depending on where work is for you, it takes an hour to get to the city centre district in peak traffic hours

Question for you is that are you coming with family or as a single female. The reason why I ask is that Sharbatly is ok if you are liberal in your thinking but not if you are conservative. For example, they dont allow women with headscarves into the recreational areas.

the restaurnat food is OK nothing to rave about if you are used to eating in nice restaurants overseas etc. Where are you coming from?

There are no 6 months in advance bookings anymore? I have always walked up every time and never even had to wait for a table

any more questions message me and I will be happy to help

#18 22 February 2012 08:42:28

Alliecat
Alliecat
Riyadh

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

With regard to 'Western' -- it really is more about a state of mind. 

I have Lebanese friends here in Riyadh who live in a compound but Saudi's have been moving in and have forced a change in the atmosphere.  They complain about things that most non-saudis take for granted--like wearing tank tops on hot days.  Many of the Lebanese are leaving this compound now, for this reason. 

Compounds are supposed to provide security but just as important for expats, we are looking for a refuge from the sometimes stifling culture of the Kingdom. If a particular compound doesn't provide that, what's the point in paying high prices to live there?

#19 22 February 2012 09:13:07

Alon Injed

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Agreed.  As long as the lefestyle is acceptable and they do not try to change it they are welcomed.   


Alliecat wrote:

With regard to 'Western' -- it really is more about a state of mind. 

I have Lebanese friends here in Riyadh who live in a compound but Saudi's have been moving in and have forced a change in the atmosphere.  They complain about things that most non-saudis take for granted--like wearing tank tops on hot days.  Many of the Lebanese are leaving this compound now, for this reason. 

Compounds are supposed to provide security but just as important for expats, we are looking for a refuge from the sometimes stifling culture of the Kingdom. If a particular compound doesn't provide that, what's the point in paying high prices to live there?

#20 22 February 2012 09:15:51

Alliecat
Alliecat
Riyadh

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Alon Injed wrote:

Agreed.  As long as the lefestyle is acceptable and they do not try to change it they are welcomed.

Exactly!

#21 22 February 2012 09:52:58

saimans
saimans
RIYADH

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Alliecat wrote:

With regard to 'Western' -- it really is more about a state of mind. 

Compounds are supposed to provide security but just as important for expats, we are looking for a refuge from the sometimes stifling culture of the Kingdom. If a particular compound doesn't provide that, what's the point in paying high prices to live there?

COmpletely agree with you. :) For me choosing the compound was only due the security reason of me and my family and a refuge from the strict customs.

#22 22 February 2012 10:20:04

ozzinksa
ozzinksa
Cape Town

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

security is over-rated in the kingdom, with the crazy strict laws etc security is very well enforced here

sure there might be the odd incident here or there but its overall pretty safe

harbour from the strict customs is definitely a big win if u live in a compound tho

#23 22 February 2012 13:06:09

Alon Injed

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Its all about lifestyle.
I no longer live in a compound as I am alone here and cannot see paying the ridicolous rentals.  I get a better place in a new building for 1/3 the cost.  I am as safe as with the machine guns and soldiers.  I figure they hit the compounds before they attack my building.   My Saudi landlord is wonderful a true gentleman, however his first words to me were no ladies.  I have a Filipina who cleans my house once a week.  She has been with me for 3 years now and has her own key.   She comes and goes while I am at work and even this arrangement seemed to bother him not due to religious or moral reasons but because of fear of the Motawa.   I also miss the ability to talk to a lady over a cup of coffee which I did on a regular basis while in the compound.

#24 23 February 2012 00:05:42

simplysk
simplysk
Jeddah

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Safety is everywhere in Saudi. Never you would have heard a western or european mugged or kidnapped for ransom
The only reason for Compound for foreigners I see is, to get rid of strict laws and to have the feeling of home away from home.

#25 23 February 2012 08:49:01

Alliecat
Alliecat
Riyadh

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

simplysk wrote:

The only reason for Compound for foreigners I see is, to get rid of strict laws and to have the feeling of home away from home.

Are YOU a westerner or european??  Then you don't know. 

Let me explain what you don't (can't) understand because you look like everybody else in this country:  Many Westerners stand out.  There's just no hiding blue eyes/blonde hair.  People are always looking at us.  I refuse to walk around covered in black from head to toe, so it's something I live with and if you know my posts, you know I've never complained about this.

There was an incident last year where western women waiting for a cab in front of Kingdom were attacked.  I personally know of a woman who had her purse snatched while in the area of Euromarche.

Do these things happen often?  Of course not.  But as I said, I know I stand out and could be a likely target if something is going to happen.

So is wearing a bikini at the pool  the only thing we care about?  Think about it.

And what about families?  Doesn't a man want to know his wife and children are safe when he's at work all day? That his children are safe riding their bikes in a compound as opposed to what?  Riding on a sidewalk in Riyadh?!? 

Never you would have heard a western or european mugged or kidnapped for ransom

Maybe that's because they live in compounds! 

But as I wrote earlier, things do happen.  A guy who worked at British Aerospace was bicycling in the desert last year and was deliberately run down and killed.  Now, bear in mind what I'm saying:  is this a dangerous place? No!  It's safer than NYC, I'm sure.  BUT.. things do happen.  Do you want them to happen to you or your family?  No.  And so you take precautions.  Living in a compound is one of those precautions. 

Don't underplay what you don't know, simplysk.

#26 23 February 2012 10:40:42

ozzinksa
ozzinksa
Cape Town

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

good reply Alliecat

Outside compounds all sorts of shit happens - I for one will always prefer to be safe than sorry

#27 23 February 2012 13:24:04

simplysk
simplysk
Jeddah

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

I have lived around 10 years in compound, Saudi City, which is one of the best ones. You talk with your experience and I have the right to talk with myne, you cannot say that I dont know as you might not know what I know.

There have been 10 deaths on the main road I have lived infront of coz car ran over people.... in 10 years. What you said is 2 or 3 incidents. Women are mugged on streets, not just foreigners but also saudis, and asians. It is a society thing...

I have been almost mugged in London, and one time I was hit by a car on a pedestrian walkway by a van in London. SO does that mean London is very inhumane country and that we should live in compounds for our security? that is obvious in compounds incidents happen a very small scale, almost negligible. But everything that happend to that british cyclist of yours or women got mugged in front of kingdom compound is just a day to day thing which can happen to everyone, not a racial thing or likewise.

Alliecat wrote:

simplysk wrote:

The only reason for Compound for foreigners I see is, to get rid of strict laws and to have the feeling of home away from home.

Are YOU a westerner or european??  Then you don't know. 

Let me explain what you don't (can't) understand because you look like everybody else in this country:  Many Westerners stand out.  There's just no hiding blue eyes/blonde hair.  People are always looking at us.  I refuse to walk around covered in black from head to toe, so it's something I live with and if you know my posts, you know I've never complained about this.

There was an incident last year where western women waiting for a cab in front of Kingdom were attacked.  I personally know of a woman who had her purse snatched while in the area of Euromarche.

Do these things happen often?  Of course not.  But as I said, I know I stand out and could be a likely target if something is going to happen.

So is wearing a bikini at the pool  the only thing we care about?  Think about it.

And what about families?  Doesn't a man want to know his wife and children are safe when he's at work all day? That his children are safe riding their bikes in a compound as opposed to what?  Riding on a sidewalk in Riyadh?!? 

Never you would have heard a western or european mugged or kidnapped for ransom

Maybe that's because they live in compounds! 

But as I wrote earlier, things do happen.  A guy who worked at British Aerospace was bicycling in the desert last year and was deliberately run down and killed.  Now, bear in mind what I'm saying:  is this a dangerous place? No!  It's safer than NYC, I'm sure.  BUT.. things do happen.  Do you want them to happen to you or your family?  No.  And so you take precautions.  Living in a compound is one of those precautions. 

Don't underplay what you don't know, simplysk.

#28 23 February 2012 13:36:35

Alliecat
Alliecat
Riyadh

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

You were talking about what Westerners want and  you're not a westerner.

If I were speaking like an authority about what is important to a Pakistani, you would most probably find flaws in my thinking/opinions, as well (even though I'd be entitled to them, you'd be entitled to point out that I was talking through my hat lol).

Also, as I said several times and thought I made most clear, I wasn't saying that Riyadh was any more unsafe than any major city.  In fact, it's safer.  But I *was* saying that things DO happen and that people who are obviously foreigners stand out more as potential victims.

#29 23 February 2012 13:40:49

Alliecat
Alliecat
Riyadh

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

An addendum: 

I WAS once mugged by a guy with a straight razor on a subway in Mexico City and it wasn't by chance.  It was because I stood out as a foreigner--a tourist-- and he assumed I'd have valuables on me.

#31 23 February 2012 16:08:16

ozzinksa
ozzinksa
Cape Town

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

simplysky im thinking of moving to saudi city as that is closer to my office

how easy is it to get onto the party scene in that compound? I hear theres a lot happening there

#32 23 February 2012 16:57:43

simplysk
simplysk
Jeddah

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

Allie...
Anyother resident in Saudi is equally at risk of being mugged, they dont care, atleast here in KSA for thinking as foreigners are more rich. Just whomever comes in their way, is a victim. Perhaps you see from ur perspective while I see from my experience of around 23 years ;).

Ozzi, SAudi city is going under serious changes, all the saudi airlines staff has been asked to leave, they gona change many things about it and also tha management is going to change. It is a wonderful place to be. The sports facilities are also very nice. You can give it a go... Sharbatly however is better. and Arabian homes is exquisite.

#33 23 February 2012 19:35:28

ozzinksa
ozzinksa
Cape Town

Re: Sharbatly Village Compound in Jeddah ? Info please !! HELP !

the saudi city is meant for the airline staff so what is the point if they are asking staff to leave??

are the changes good or bad? I am interested in an environment where I can easily party and have a good time without getting into any issues

any contacts tips etc you have feel free to pm me plz

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