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I see your point Tom, but only if the six month work permit cannot be renewed.  I don't recall reading that after the first six month work permit expires, it is not renewable.  Moreover, what really would be the difference it all work permits were like they used to be...12 months?  Was that ever a reason to only want to rent a house for 12 months aside from those who knew their job was a temporary assignment, or were uncertain about their longevity in Indonesia?

Aren't there plenty of short term rentals available for "temporary" expats?  In my neck of the woods there are.

Hold on!  What’s this bit here:

“3.  Renting a house, thus, only can be for 6 months.”

Are you suggesting that property leases in Indonesia can now only be for a period of 6 months?  If so, where did you hear that?

“2.  Foreigners work permit issued max 6 months only?”

Actually, that depends on the job function/title of the person being issued the work permit. 

The idea behind this is that lower level jobs given to foreigners (because a qualified Indonesian could not be found), should be temporary and that the employer should continue to seek a qualified Indonesian to fill the position on a permanent basis.

Ubudian posted on the thread Music in Indonesia on the Indonesia forum

The soul of Indonesia is soothed by the gamelan.  If you like ethnomusicology, then it’s gamelan for you.  Java, particularly the kratons of Yogyakarta and Solo, and all over Bali are the best places to enjoy the gamelan orchestra which is usually accompanied by traditional dancing. 

Most popular local music is called dangdut…which I don’t personally like at all. 

But best of all are the many excellent pop music or rock and roll musicians that abound here in Indonesia.

My favorite, Kis Band Bali…have a listen…


And here too…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHBQ-pK … mp;index=8

Ubudian posted on the thread Airconditioner repair . on the Indonesia forum

Hold on…you’re in Bali.  That’s good news because I have yet to run into one thing made by man that a Balinese couldn't fix. 

Aircon is not my thing…never owned one, and never will, but in my kitchen are three refrigerators, two almost as old as myself, and no problems getting them fixed.  Same goes for my washing machine, Kijang, two motorbikes and various electric gadgets like power tools…and I almost forgot, TV’s and my PC! 

IMHO opinion though, you are best to wait until you are back in Bali this December, and then have it fixed.  In the meantime, go online for The Bali Advertiser and you’ll find some very good repairmen there.  Or as noted already, just ask about with others in your neighborhood…Balinese, and bule.

Ubudian posted on the thread Buying property when we emigrate. on the Bali forum

As I understand it, this new 500 billion (or whatever the number shakes out to be) apartment purchasing/ownership will be based on the Thai approach which is based on western condominium property laws.  In that case, yes, the foreigner will in fact be allowed to own “property” that being defined as the particular unit within the apartment/condominium complex, and that right of ownership (of that unit) can be resold and or passed on through last will and testament.  In other words, they will be a real tangible asset far beyond a lease.

Land ownership, on the other hand, is not affected by this change.  That remains impossible for foreigners aside from certain situations within PMA establish businesses. 

As for the current seemingly “anti-foreigner” climate, I still see this as coming from two directions…one being the unknown effect over time of the ASEAN agreement.  And the other being the capitulation (horse trading) that Jokowi had to deal with in order for the DPR (legislature) to form a coalition in order to ratify his presidency.  In that “horse trading” certain ministers had to be placed into positions that Jokowi would unlikely have ever considered.

Those of us who have been around for a long time (as in back to the Soeharto days) are somewhat more used to these shifts back and forth…but also more inclined to understand that sooner or later common sense prevails. 

"Never a dull moment" has been de rigueur here for a very long time.

Ubudian posted on the thread Alcohol Import Tax up to 150% on the Indonesia forum

"Do we really want to see so many foreign people working here?"

My answer is no, but on the other hand we do have to recognize the need for some foreign investment to enable Indonesia to grow.  The challenge is to find that middle ground. IMHO, one doesn't find that middle ground by swinging from one extreme to the other, and that is all too often the reality of how Indonesia operates.     

As for the increase in imported alcohol, I see that from my usual point of view of making silk purses from sow's ears.

In other words, this should greatly benefit local producers of alcoholic beverages.   :top:

Ubudian posted on the thread How to find work in bali on the Bali forum

“I am staying in Bali for the last 7 months and i see a lot of expat people working as restaurant managers or as hotel staff.”

99% of those people are working in their own business that they started.  They are not employees.  Just ask one next time you see one. 

“I think hospitality is a strong field here and they still need professional people.”

Yes, there is still a need for professional people in the hospitality field which is exactly why there is an excellent tourism college in Nusa Dua…with hundreds of highly qualified Indonesians graduating each year.   :top:

Ubudian posted on the thread A day in the life ...... on the Indonesia forum

Hey uncle Fred!  I just spotted that awesome photo of "anak Fred."

Thank God he gets his looks from Ms. Fred!   :lol:   

Seriously, SELAMAT to you both!

And, speaking of the day…


As you surely must already know, Bali has been the place where many writers in the past have come to find the perfect setting and inspiration to write their books.  As a former New Yorker myself, you just might find Bali to be perfect for you.

You might have a look at the central mountains area of Bali, in and around Bedugul, Batur, Munduk, etc.  And, you might also consider a home stay with a Balinese family which in itself will provide a great foundation, peace, tranquility and endless stimulus to get those creative juices flowing.

While you can do a good amount of research in advance of coming over to Bali, you really need to be here to see for yourself and look around for that perfect combination that you’ll immediately recognize once confronted with it. 

Good luck, and good writing!

Ubudian posted on the thread Prescription medication on the Bali forum

That prior advice, while useful for someone in Jakarta, isn't much help for a family here on Bali.

On Bali there are many very good hospitals and private clinics...all with pharmacies (called apotik here).  Just Google and contact one or more about getting your prescriptions renewed, and if required, an appointment with one of their doctors.

Ubudian posted on the thread Safety in Indonesia on the Indonesia forum

My view, and this is my own personal view (albeit shared by many expats here on Bali), is that if you are stopped by the police for some sort of traffic violation, and in fact you were at fault, then negotiate a “fine” with the cop and pay the agreed amount.  Taking the court route will only end up being a monumental waste of time, and almost surely wind up costing more anyway.

If you think about it along the lines of “an expedited judicial process” then it can start to make some sense.

Ubudian posted on the thread Safety in Indonesia on the Indonesia forum

Not to justify police corruption I can at least give a reason why in Bali (where 99% of the police are Balinese), there is a lot more of it at specific times of the year, like right now, just prior to the Galungan and Kuningan holiday.  Galungan is the day after tomorrow, Wednesday, and Kuningan 10 days later. 

These are the highest holidays for the Balinese, and they are somewhat costly holidays, thus the incentive to look for some additional cash.  And, truth be told, the police here are not well paid. 

Once again...I'm not offering a justification, rather, just an explanation. 


Ubudian posted on the thread visa in bali on the Bali forum

She can sponsor you for a KITAS visa (residency visa) and if you've been married for (I think it's two years or more) she can sponsor you for a permanent residency KITAP visa.

Ubudian posted on the thread Safety in Indonesia on the Indonesia forum

Fred asks, "We commonly hear about Australian drunks being a serious problem.
Is this true at all, limited a one area, blown up way past the truth, or a total lie?"

It's true, but they are only a problem among themselves (bar fights) and limited to Kuta and Legian as Luke mentioned.  Both areas are “party town” and coming to Bali to party is still cheaper for Australians than vacationing at home.   

1st bass also mentioned skeeter related disease and motor bike accidents.  These are also concerns in Bali…no malaria but dengue is a problem and to be honest, I would say around half my friends have had a run in with dengue at one point or another.  Bali traffic is notorious down south, and in less crowded areas it's the condition of the roads that lead to lots of bike accidents.   

Great to see some new members posting!   :top:

Cheers all!

Ubudian posted on the thread Safety in Indonesia on the Indonesia forum

An excellent post IMHO, and a very accurate portrayal of my own 24/7 experience of life on Bali these past 17 years.

In my village I’ve only seen a police car once in all those years and that was to verify that a hanging death was indeed a suicide and not a staged murder. 

As you say, a little common sense goes a long way here.

Cheers!   :top:

Ubudian posted on the thread home schooling and bali schools on the Bali forum

Hati hati Saintjean as the law is rather specific in that compensation isn't limited to money.  If you provide goods and/or services (as in room and board) you are still employing a foreigner in the eyes of the law. 

I can assure you that immigration will not look kindly upon a French person illegally hiring an English person for "au pair" (domestic help) duties and also tutoring. 

Olivia, I can also assure you that immigration here in Bali will look very unfavorably on you doing private tutoring here on Bali without a proper business license, KITAS visa and work permit.  The law even prohibits duly employed and documented foreign teachers on Bali from doing private tutoring in their spare time.  You are risking a lot, as in up to a US $50,000.00 fine, up to five years in jail and permanent deportation (after the fine paid and time served). 

These days immigration isn't playing any games, and expats who "play by the rules" and go through all that it takes to do it right, are not sympathetic towards those who chose to cut corners.

Ubudian posted on the thread Job for a Junior Architect / Interior Designer on the Bali forum

If you go for a foreigner from a non ASEAN country, good luck trying to get a work permit for that level position here in Bali.

You should contact ITB in Bandung and let them make your need known to the current graduating class.

Ubudian posted on the thread Buying property when we emigrate. on the Bali forum

Mark Twain used to write about the weather in my home state, Connecticut, "if you don't like the weather, just wait a minute, as it will change." 

Same could be said about the laws and regulations in Indonesia, "if you don't like the laws and regulations here, just wait a minute as they will change."

Indonesia...never a dull moment!   ;)

Ubudian posted on the thread antique furniture on the Jakarta forum

"Jl. Surabaya mm, been there many times no antiques, only fakes, but good ones... they all crooks, so you better know your stuff."

We bought a wonderful pair of late 19th century Japanese Satsuma vases there, totally authentic
for $150.00, put them up on eBay and they fetched $1200.00.

Agree, there are lots of fakes at the Jalan Surabaya market, but there are real objects too.  As you say, you need to know your stuff.