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As a quick follow up…here's another link to this news story:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/robert-kelv … 19k5q.html

A great quote within it:

"Who knows what happens. If you piss the wrong person off in Bali, or if you do the wrong thing, weird things happen. This is a very weird island, things happen for very stupid reasons or no reason at all," the friend said."

YUP!  That is indeed the way it is with life in the jungle!

Check your link Tom...it doesn't take me to the story. 

Ironic...re-runs of "A Murder She Wrote" are now popular here...but of course not quite as popular as Mahabarata!

BTW, my devotee wife of that Indian saga that has captured the Balinese by storm was among invited guests to the Indian Consulate to meet some of the actors a week ago. 

But back to murders here on Bali...should there be any surprise that with the ever increasing numbers of westerners calling Bali "home" that the number of crimes involving westerners (including murder) rises?

In reality, the "prior commentator" which is me, has several family members and a far larger number of close Indonesian acquaintances who have either recently completed their college studies abroad, or who are still studying abroad...the UK, Switzerland, the US and OZ.

My point is simply this...your earlier comments, while unquestionably indicative of times past...as in 30 or so years ago, are today completely irrelevant and in no way indicative of present times.

The fact is that today, more and more middle class Indonesians enjoy studying abroad.  This educational opportunity is no longer limited to a few privileged offspring of the elite.  In other words, there is no more "Berkeley Mafia" and I trust you can look that up on your own.   

Should there be more?  Absolutely! 

You say that your post accurately reflects the "types of attitudes witnessed prevalent among Indonesian students in Australia and anecdotal examples of behavior exhibited" but it doesn't, and in fact, that comment could not be more inaccurate.

In addition, your earlier inference that college success in Indonesia is predicated on the rupiah is also not reflective of the current situation.  In many past years…yes…today…NO.

It does matter here on this forum when one is either current with present day Indonesia, or not.  Recalling the past can be interesting and insightful, but claiming the past as present is misleading and untruthful.

I trust that this is "enlightenment" enough?

Ubudian posted on the thread Indonesia visa in Singapore on the Indonesia forum

Actually Priscilla, having these sort of tips periodically showing up on the regular forum is an excellent idea. 

Anyone with experience dealing with the Indonesian embassy in Singapore regarding visa matters knows very well just how valuable and useful a good local agent in Singapore can be.  And isn't that the whole point of this forum...to share tips? 

In fact, dealing with immigration and visa matters year after year after year has become quite an incentive for some of us to take on full citizenship!   ;)

Ubudian posted on the thread welcome mr president joko widodo on the Indonesia forum

It seems to me that Jokowi is a indeed a master at keeping his friends close, and his enemies closer.

Being the magnanimous sort of fellow he is, he would surely thank you for your advice.   ;)

Ubudian posted on the thread Extend 30 Day Visa on the Indonesia forum

Yup...just as Tom says. 

The main immigration office is in Denpasar (Renon) to be specific...or you can also go to the airport immigration office located before you enter the terminal areas on the right.  Kantor Imigrasi is what to ask for if needing directions.

You do need to move quickly to renew your current VOA as it runs out this Friday, the 24th. 

Dress nice...long pants and a short sleeve shirt (no tee shirt, singlet or speedos), have alcohol free breath, be polite and you'll find the folks at either office to be very helpful.    :top:

Ubudian posted on the thread Extend 30 Day Visa on the Indonesia forum

Refer to your other post.  25 September arrival and 25 November departure is 62 days...not 60 days.  Your date of arrival counts as day one, and you must depart on the 60th day (after getting the extension on your initial 30 day VOA).

Overstay fees can be a nasty surprise at Ngurah Rai.   ;)

Ubudian posted on the thread "Living the Dream" on the Bali forum

Edwin, if you arrived in Bali on the 25th of September on a VOA (visa on arrival) then you can extend that here in Bali for another 30 days, but you need to get moving on that ASAP as it's already the 21st of October.   

Secondly, both your initial VOA and its extension are only good for 30 days, and your date of arrival counts as day 1.

Therefore, there is no way you can arrive on the 25th of September and leave on the 25th of November without being two days overstay (even if you arrived on a 60 day visit visa). 

In addition to the excellent advice offered by the prior poster, be sure to simply click on the Bali link to be brought to all the past topics relating to Bali. 

And lastly, just for the record, the "Bali dream" will never be found in Kuta!   That's were you find the "hangover dream."   :D


Ubudian posted on the thread are u looking for job overseas on the Indonesia forum

Here we go again!   :(

YO!  Please leave our Indonesian women alone.  They are used to human rights, being treated with respect and dignity, not having to dress in a tent, driving their own cars, and being with any man of their choice wherever and whenever they want.  :top:

Ubudian posted on the thread Available Nanny in Ubud - Bali on the Bali forum

Tia, a few quick suggestions for you.

This forum is primarily for expats, or in other words, this isn't a "tamu" forum.

You need to get your message out on travel forums relating to Bali, and there are many of them...just Google.  Three I can suggest right away is Virtual Tourist, The Bali Travel Forum, and Thorntree (Lonely Planet).

You should also consider establishing contacts with the numerous five star resorts in the Ubud area. 

Cheers, and good luck!

Ubudian posted on the thread Presidential election on the Indonesia forum

If I could honestly trust Prabowo’s intentions, as opposed to what he makes perfectly clear…that being his own ambition for power, then I would commend his comments as being indicative and most demonstrative of exactly how a true democracy works…checks and balances.

As for the OZ thing, good grief, the “marriage” of Indonesia and Australia is just that…a marriage.  Sometimes smooth, sometimes rocky, the bottom line though is quite simple…that marriage has worked for many long years to the clear benefit of both countries.

Ubudian posted on the thread Presidential election on the Indonesia forum

Pak Fred, IMHO, thus far, and in the face of "slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune",  Pak Jokowi has handled himself very admirably. 

This of course also speaks well for the people of Indonesia who elected him.   ;)

Monday will be a proud day for Indonesia!   :top:

Ubudian posted on the thread I hope everyone sharing at this on the Indonesia forum

OK, so why on earth would you want to die as a warrior?

Isn't peace better than war, and isn't dying peacefully in bed surrounded by beloved family also better?

Most folks I've run into in my life who glorify war have in fact, never worn a uniform, never fired a weapon in anger, and surely have never lived with the ghosts of those they killed while at war.

Just some "food for thought."

Ubudian posted on the thread Australian owning Property in Bali on the Bali forum

Canggu is a good choice.  It's one of the few areas down south where all the land hasn't already been paved over and developed.  With land conservation and preservation becoming an increasingly important issue for the Balinese, there is a chance that some parts of Canggu will remain undeveloped. 

" it seems everyone has a different view regarding taxes etc."

Not really.  The only view that matters is the view held by the Kantor Pajak (tax office) for each Regency. That's the view you need to know.   ;)

Ubudian posted on the thread job vacancies in bali on the Bali forum

"There goes a job that may be difficult to fill from local labour..."

Actually Fred, you might be surprised to know that there are quite a number of Balinese who are fluent in Japanese, the result of need to the high volume of Japanese tourists to Bali.

Ubudian posted on the thread Experience with Okusi Associates? on the Indonesia forum

We've never used them, but from others who have...primarily to set up a PMA business, we've only heard good things about them.  Setting up a PMA isn't a cheap process by any means, but from what we've been told, their fees were reasonable and their work highly professional. 

"lafoto" if you had a bad experience with them, it is only useful to comment about that if you are more specific and honest with your criticism.   ;)

Ubudian posted on the thread ISIS Presence in Indonesia on the Indonesia forum

It's a tough nut Tom.

If they've served their prison time, then they have to be released.   

On the other hand, hopefully Intel will be keeping an eye on them.

One has to admit, in recent years Indonesia has been doing a good job regarding terrorism here on the home front.  Let's hope this continues.